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I don't think the vast majority of games that have sexualized characters in them deserve to be written off as only being coombrained. They might deserve to be criticized for that one specific thing, depending on context and such. (Im not someone who thinks that sexy characters are inherently bad, and also think there's a distinction between sexy and objectifying). But the vast majority of those games have some sort of artistic merit besides the sexy girls. Whether it be gameplay or narrative or what. Even Stellar Blade, which I personally despise the vibes of deeply, apparently is pretty fun to play based on the demo.
Like even the later DOA Volleyball games are fun volleyball games lol (not the original one, but they got better) from what i hear.
So like unless its explicitly a hentai game or something that's purpose is literally jerking off, I think there's almost always merit outside the sex. (and if it is just a hentai game, well hentai is a significantly more ethical way of jerking off than consuming porn that uses actual actors so?)
I realize what you said was if the person's entire list of games are horny games thats condemnable so thats not really what you were saying, but its a point I wanted to make. I would disagree with the word condemn personally anyway, and use the word mock instead lmao, "condemn" has a weight to it that I dont think that deserves.
You right, 'mock' is much more what I meant.
But regardless, I think the vast majority of games with sexy horny are doing it just for sales. I feel like there's only rarely merit to it beyond titillation, and it just feels like empty glitter. Does that mean these games have nothing besides sex to offer? No, there's games I've liked where I've had to roll my eyes at much of the visuals. But that's not going to stop me from dunking on the visuals. Because Yoko Taro is unabashedly horny on main, and while I don't think the design of 2b is good, I think his design work on Kainé is far worse. From what I've heard, her story is 'good', but the outfit, Yoko's comments about her penis, and the 'achievement' you get for trying to look up her skirt are all deeply disgusting to me.
Honestly, I think a lot of it was historically simply the devs' own unexamined horniness
Personally I think 2b's default outfit (not the one in the screenshot) is a good character design honestly. And honestly from a front view isn't even that overtly sexual? Its only because you can look up the skirt at her butt that it becomes that. Kaine though I agree lmao she's literally wearing lingerie* and yeah the achievement and stuff are gross. (*Though so is A2 and I like that design a bit more, idk it doesnt seem quiet as obnoxious with her, but maybe im excusing shit because i personally am highly attracted to A2 like more than the others.). Like the horny monkey brain part of me finds Kaine hot but the design is not good from that perspective.
Re "they're just there to sell games", I would point out that I think horny people will still make games with sexy characters in them under socialism lol. Like you even say Yoko Taro is a very horny brained person. I think he's doing horny shit in his games because he likes it. And I think his games would still be horny under socialism.
Obviously sometimes its to sell games. DOA Extreme is obviously that lol. I just wanted to point out that horny doesnt go away with profit motive gone.