The second one had decent politics if you go with Elf Guevara instead of fantasy gestapo.

but it's so embarassing that every single non-evil woman shows off so much cleavage all the time

Especially insulting because one of the biggest offenders, Triss, was in the books. She had like 4 character traits. One of them was that she NEVER SHOWS CLEAVAGE. EVER. She has extreme trauma related to a time she was almost burned to death, and she was very self-conscious of the faint burn scars that were still visible on her chest from that experience.

So some dipshit at CDPR reads that and goes, "Ah, yes, I have just the outfit for her. How's this?" It's so fucking cringe goddamn it pisses me off

For fuck sakes, I like the Witcher Saga games but it's so embarassing that every single non-evil woman shows off so much cleavage all the time, makes me feel like a fucking creep for playing it. Sure the politics of the game arent great either, etc

Witcher 1 had Geralt collecting tradings cards of women he slept with in provocative poses. Like you sleep with them, it fades to black, then the trading card fills up the screen.

Real bad time to have your parents walk in the room.

Anyway, I'm glad they realized how cringe they were being and toned it down a bit.

Huh? They've been pretty ok after the 1st one, which admittedly was very cringe.

I strongly disagree with this comment.

Bayonetta is not a sexualized character, she is a sexual character. A female character being sexualized means that there is external emphasis on her sexuality when the character herself does not define herself by her sexuality in a major way. My go-to example for this is Sonya Blade in Mortal Kombat 9, who is supposed to be a tough, no-nonsense military woman but who wears skimpy clothing for no reason other than , despite it making no sense for who she is as a character. Bayonetta does define herself by her sexuality, she's flirty and sexy because she wants to present herself that way. And sure, you could argue that that is still imposed on her by an outside entity because she is a fictional character, but you can guess where that line of reasoning would lead you.

There are plenty of women who enjoy being sexy and who define themselves by their sexuality as Bayonetta does. It only becomes a problem when women who don't want to be (primarily) perceived as sexy are forced to do so by outside entities to appeal to the male gaze. That is when someone who isn't "sexual" by themselves becomes sexualized. This is absolutely not the case for Bayonetta, she has full agency over her sexuality and expresses it out of her own volition.

Karlach is a completely different character archetype than Bayonetta is. Karlach's sexuality is not a primary aspect of her character the same way Bayonetta's is, a better comparison from BG3 would be Mizora. A competent, dominant character who presents herself as sexy. Mizora is not a sexualized character, but if you put Shadowheart in Mizora's outfit while making no changes to who she is as a character, that would be an example of sexualization. If there was a scene where Mizora gives the player a lapdance it wouldn't be much of an issue because it makes sense for her character to want to do that, if there was a lapdance scene for Shadowheart it would be a very different thing.

You can criticize Bayonetta for being a man's idea of a female power fantasy character, but you can't criticize her overt sexuality as an inherent flaw. Plenty of women do enjoy being perceived as sexual beings, they enjoy the idea of being a succubus or a seductress, and the idea of only women being allowed to create characters like that is ridiculous. Sexy, seductive female characters in games are not inherently misogynistic.

Im sorry but who designed the characters asside theres no way that SB is going to have anywhere near the narrative depth of Nier Automata or even Bayonetta. Its just not going to happen. Ive heard the gameplay is good and thats nice i suppose but this is about charachter depth.

And Nier and Bayo have not been championed by chuds to anywhere near the same extent SB has, and have huge queer fanbases. Its never been the same.

Personally I read Bayo's sexuality as being positive, nonobjectifying, and empowering but like your allowed not to. But ive met plenty of women who agree with my take so I stand by it. Seems subjective to me.

2B is not that, she's sexualized in an objectifying way, but I will reiterate the massive queer fanbase the game has, as well as there being much much more to 2B than a nice butt.

(Also i just fucking hate SB's visual presentiation/art style and like Bayo and Nier's so).

Also i dont think "designed by a woman" is entirly irrelevant unless she had no input and just followed directions?

I'm not supporting a Zionist voice actress that hates the living fuck out of people like me, so I'm not playing 3).

Wait i thought it was the orignal voice actor that was the terf reactionary, whats wrong with Jen Hale

the game isn't an example of shit about fuck, I literally feel gaslit like millions of gamers saw a couple of characters named after philosophers (which every anime has been doing forever) and were like "wauw so philosophical"

Because chuds only deal in aesthetics, the game could be literally about october revolution where you play as Lenin and the game ends on the triumphant victory and the creation of Soviet Russia, with someone saying; "Communism will win." Staring at the camera. BUT if every female character was hot and skimpily dressed the chuds would all over themselves trying to claim the game for their brand of G*merism-Fascism

I never will understand why rightoids are allowed to be horny and not us.

Most of them are scared shitless that some supernatural entity is going to torture them forever for having a sex drive, and that's why call anything even remotely risque the funny d-word, yet it never seems to apply to them. Like they're allowed to be perverse as a "reward" for conforming so well.