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do you mean like vegan food is all the same casserole night after night? that's a bizarre analogy. you can make all kinds of vegan food.
No, I'm asking in general if not taking a child's culinary tastes into consideration is abusive behavior.
It works without talking about carnism/veganism. Like, if the kid really likes artichoke and eats it outside of the house, but the parents never have artichoke at the house and refuse to give it to him/her for whatever reason.
It's not a binary question. You definitely shouldn't feed a child or any dependent the exact same thing every night. That amounts to torture eventually. Especially if they don't like it in the first place.
You can also vary the preparation process to make an "unacceptable" food edible for the kid. Kid doesn't like steamed broccoli? Put some cheese (or vegan cheese, don't @ me) on that shit or put it in a cream sauce. Vary the steaming time. Maybe they prefer softer broccoli or somewhar crunchy broccoli. Maybe adding salt, butter, vegan margarine, vegan butter, or other spices could help. Or maybe green beans are more to their liking.
Some preparation methods are simply disgusting (overcooked mushy boiled spinach instead of blanched) and the parent either doesn't know or doesn't care that there are better ways to prepare it. I don't know if I'd call that "abuse" but it's certainly unfortunate, and my parents went through things like that that they still to this day remember with revulsion and pain.
My dad was forced to eat mushy boiled canned spinach and he had to sit at the table literally as long as it took to eat it. He still had to eat it even if it got cold, and no, they wouldn't reheat it. This happened multiple times. I'd categorize that as abuse.
Getting our kid to eat vegetables became easier when we let them control their own use of salt and butter. That added a sense of control, allowed them to season to taste and also has allowed some fuckups so now they know that there is in fact too much of a good thing.
Awesome! I'm glad that was a success.