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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Molesting children seems a few steps above rude, it seems more like inflicting life-lasting trauma which serves to maintain capitalism and all its secondary contradictions to me

Pedophilia isn't even a natural lust, it literally only exists in the context of a society that needs to inflict harm on children to reproduce itself

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I'd argue it's as "natural" as psychopathy or pyromania tbh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't doubt that you would, but I do have to question whether you'd be arguing specifically from a feminist perspective or from gut feelings derived from unquestioned beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pedantry over what "natural" means, as pedophilia has been observed in penguins and otters, and I think dolphins as well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

OK that really is freaking pedantic, but if you're just pointing out my appeal to nature Phallussy, then sure, whatever, I probably shouldn't have used such a vague but loaded word when I wasn't meaning it 100% literally.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As long as we're being pedantic that's what matters very-smart

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn I can't even be mad at you

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Oh shit you're right

HEY FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCKER GO FUCK YOURSELF

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Hey, fire is fucking dope.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Molesting children seems a few steps above rude, it seems more like inflicting life-lasting trauma which serves to maintain capitalism and all its secondary contradictions to me

How does that serve to maintain capitalism?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Get arrested by Feds -> get turned into an informant -> infiltrate organizations that threaten capital

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is this a well known/common phenomenon?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For pedophilia specifically? I don’t know about the statistics, but they used it to infiltrate pedo communities and Nazi groups (which I mean, are the same) - but even then there are rarely meaningful punishments when those targets are arrested. But felonies in general are attractive because they provide more leverage for cops. The FBI hired a violent felon to infiltrate and disrupt BLM during the George Floyd protests in Colorado

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't really know anything about this phenomenon so forgive me if I ask dumb questions, but why would feds recruit pedophiles to infiltrate orgs? It's not like they have any special skills for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

From what I understand, it's not so much their skills as an informant/agent provocateur that's appealing, as having them firmly in the pocket of the alphabet agencies. Knowing your handler can single handedly ruin your life (as credible allegations of paedophilia probably would) is one hell of an incentive to stay on their good side and do their bidding, as a matter of self-preservation. Knowing your agent is likely not gonna flip (like a lot of CIA/FBI did in the early Cold War) helps too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Some may have desirable traits that doesn’t necessarily involve skill. And this goes for any criminal with a potentially hefty sentence.

For example, cartel drug dealers get turned because they may face extradition and are close with king pins. Some hackers or businessmen may be unremarkable but they control important illicit marketplaces which could net more gains for Feds. Pedos may be good at manipulation or simply have the means to procure children to compromise other targets. The BLM infiltrator the in my OP lied about ever serving in militias and fighting against ISIS. He was just a grimy, loud, violent asshole whose presence was intoxicating to the activists.

Regardless, the usual commonality between all of them is that their lives could be ruined, deservingly or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Molesting children .... to maintain capitalism

infiltrate organizations that threaten capital

infiltrate pedo communities

So does it maintain capital or threaten capital?

And if it maintains capitalism because of kompromat, then does being open about it thwart the whole plan?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I mean molestation has no inherent worth for anything but the criminal lol.

Molesting children .... to maintain capitalism

infiltrate organizations that threaten capital

I’m not sure what the contradiction here is. Is infiltrating something that threatens capital the same as maintaining capitalism?

then does being open about it thwart the whole plan

Maybe. But what’s anyone gonna do about it? The CIA declassifies its abuses every few decades. A couple headlines here and there. Then what? A prince is associated with a global pedophile ring and he retreats into obscurity and everyone moves on. The only people who are hurt are the victims of the abuses and infiltrations.

Also, limited hangouts mean the abusers can stoke the heinous acts themselves for people to focus on as spectacles, while the the victims and implications are ignored. The knowledge that it exists is enough for people to feel like they’ve accomplished something and move on.