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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17617609

They supposedly can be disabled in settings- but we all know that won't last. They're going full Microsoft Skype mode and it's only a matter of time.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Good. I hope people will move away from it soon. I hate Discord for banning third-party clients and datamining my system for installed apps. So I've never really used it.

It does mean I'm excluded from some FOSS projects' support like Home Assistant but to hell with that :P

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully those FOSS projects will gain some sense as discord becomes more shit and will leave. One can hope.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never understood how a chatroom took off as a tool to document stuff. Who seriously thinks this is a good idea? 😵

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If a project only has Discord for support (no docs, no bug tracker), I'm not using it. Don't want to deal with trying to find anything in Discord.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Most projects still haven't left GitHub...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

ideally such changes to advertising and the ToS arbitration clause removing consumer rights will help give a lot of the open-source communities a gentle push to get off of discord. It's become far too central to too many communities and is impossible to search for knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Good. I hope people will move away from it soon.

You mean like they moved away from Reddit when they killed 3rd party clients and openly began selling user data to data brokers?

Or how they left Twitter when it was bought by an egomaniac who killed 3rd party clients, fired the entirety of the moderation staff, then required users to log in to view posts?

Or maybe how they left Facebook after any of the many times they've been caught collecting user data against their will, promoted genocide, never allowed 3rd party apps, and willingly manipulated elections?

Nevermind the fact that those platforms have had ads for decades.

Yeah sorry, ain't gonna happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

never allowed 3rd party apps

Facebook used to allow third party apps (e.g. Snaptu started as a third-party app before the acquisition) and exposed most of the functionality via their API, but it's not really a thing any more after Cambridge Analytica - the API was locked down significantly. You can't really have it both ways... Allowing third-party apps also allows those apps to scrape and store user info, which is what Cambridge Analytica did.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can't really have it both ways...

I don't want it both ways.

Allowing third-party apps also allows those apps to scrape and store user info, which is what Cambridge Analytica did.

Accessing an API is not scraping. Scraping is still possible without an API. All CA did was access public information. The problem in that case is not access to public information, it is intentional paid disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Accessing an API is not scraping.

I probably used the wrong words... What I meant is that given API access, a malicious third-party can gather a large amount of data and store it in a way that goes against the service's terms of service, without the proper privacy guarantees (e.g. user data being deleted if they delete their account). Obviously that's a problem for a social network where people can post a lot of friends-only posts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've only ever used it in browser to limit what it can see on my machine. I was told by one of my coding professors that one of the signs of a virus is if it monitors what apps you're running, I've been cautious ever since of anything that does that (obviously it isn't the only sign and isn't instant virus bin, like I have an app that monitors GPU usage and throttles apps to keep from cooking my machine)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Don't forget that it saves even your deleted DMs for as long as you have an account!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

People will move away, sure, but to another proprietary service that'll do the same thing in a year or two.