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It's a pretty common thing to say certain bands aren't metal, as an elitist gatekeeping thing. Baby Metal is one that often, people will say "isn't metal" because they're cute girls in Gothic Lolita fashion. It's a pretty common assumption that anyone laughing at baby Metal is just being an elitist.
I don’t care for baby metal but it’s because of their fans primarily.
Look, I love Nekrogoblikon so I am not one to hold my nose in derision over a shtick.
Babymetal are super talented, The music is pretty good too it’s just not for me.
It’s not MY type of metal but if I have that opinion around one of their fans I get the “oh you’re an elitist” speech when in reality every fan I’ve known of Baby Metal has been kinda icky and shitty about them not being in my top 5.
While I accept that Baby metal is metal, it's also manufactured corpo rock.
Metallica is on the map too, so they’re in good company with a like group.
Baby Metal is an idol group which … yeah, that’s the genre
I'm not a fan of Metallica, but they did emerge from a grassroots music scene.
I mean, they're not my top choice either, but there's a HIGE difference in your approach, "not my cup of tea", and the gatekeeper approach of "it's not real reeee". Everyone has taste, but there's some kind of weird pride over something being metal, or not metal, and it's just super shitty to attack something someone loves, just because it's not your thing.
Heard.
My point was their fandom swings the other direction too.
I mean, that's fair. I don't think that's a valid reason to go gatekeeper, just live and let live, but I get it.
Oh shit I’m not gatekeeping or trying to, I was just conversing with ya. I say listen to whatever gets you off
I’ve seen what you’re saying for sure though but I argue it’s anyone who is passionate about something likes to walk their garden off and throw up a gate.
I know you're not, personally. I'm just providing counterargument.
My counterargument to that is, why wall your garden off? Why not share the beauty you've found or built with others? Maybe see what their gardens are like?
I do care for babymetal because gimme chocolate is a fucking banger, corporate as it is. I like genre-crossing stuff when it's done well, like that or any mix by Bill McClintock (especially his Motown or Soul mixed with classic metal/hard rock), even Run DMC and Aerosmith, just for another example. Or stuff like Billy Strings.
I mean, babymetal is nowhere near my top 5, I'm not even sure they're in my top 5 Japanese metal bands (Sete Star Sept is Ichiban), but I do like em.
But for real thanks for letting me know about Nekrogoblin, idk how I hadn't heard this before.
I'm not into metal. It's just interesting how 150 of them fit expectations and a handful don't. I'm not gate keeping.