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this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2023
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The planet is going to change. No matter what we do to it, it will heal. Period. Without question. Humanity is so hyperfocused on controlling everything around us, we forget that we don't matter nearly as much as we think we do. I dont think you comprehend the force the planet and all life on it withstood when the dinosaurs died out. Humanity ain't shit compared to that. We are not the masters of the universe. We're just another species on a single rock out of quadrillions. Check out what CO2 levels were 150million years ago and tell me that the earth will never recover from car emissions lmfao
Do you want to survive the next 50 years? Yes, the planet will be fine. Do you want some semblance of government that can manage day to day migration crises for want of food, lack of water, and oh yeah, continuous war over basic resources. But yes, the planet will be fine.
What about your children or if no child, your families descendants or any future human for that matter to enjoy what we've been spoiled with for our entire lives? And yes, I know... The planet WILL be fine. But we won't be and a lot of other species will go well before us... Many have gone already.
This person is so enlightened that they probably don't see the difference between stubbing one's toe and global nuclear annihilation
Humanity will be fine. We've survived ice ages before, and I'm sure we'll do so again. Suffering is a given. You are living in complete ignorance if you don't believe there is suffering in your very own city right now this moment, no matter where you live in the world. Would there be more if governments collapsed and wars raged all over the world? Sure. But there is and will never be any period of "no suffering". In fact, a massive population decline might very well lower the average suffering of the survivors for a while due to resource surplus. The point here is that humanity is not the end all be all of perspectives. Cataclysmic for us can be the dawn of a golden age for someone else. Give octopus or dolphins a shot.
So you're frustrated by climate change alarmists because even if civilization collapses there will still likely be humans in a cave somewhere, and the octopus might have a shot at taking over the world?
Fortunately most people aren't so horribly misanthropic; we actually care what happens to people.
I'm frustrated with climate alarmists because they are too busy alarmistizing the conversation to actually get productive about solutions. The only way we will ever see progress towards stabilizing our climate is when something other than human is in charge. I, for one, welcome our future robot overlords with open arms. We have thousands of years of history to prove to anyone with the eyes to see that humanity cannot be trusted to care for itself. AI is the best bet we have as long as we actually manage to birth the machine gods before we put ourselves back into the caves.