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My apologies for the Twitter link. Appears to have happened around 1:30 EDT, judging from the timestamp in the video. Seems unsurprising that Amerikkkan infrastructure is in this dire of a state (at the cost of innocent people's lives, as usual), but I'd still love to know what the hell happened here. Hopefully the early hour meant that more people weren't harmed.

Photo of the aftermath:

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I know nothing about driving(?) boats, let alone a massive shipping container, but how the fuck does this happen. Captain have a few drinks or what?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's not uncommon for these huge ships to temporarily lose power when going slowly like this, either from age, poor maintenance, or engines that just don't like being at low RPM for that long

The problem is, a few seconds of power loss at the wrong time gets you this

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

Oh great, everything working as intended then

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

That’s crazy. I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you mean to tell me a few seconds of power losses is all it takes? I'd get like 10 or 15 minutes or whatever adrift but a few seconds is all that stands between clearing the bridge and just fucking taking it out?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you watch the video, that's basically what happened

The ship loses power as it's making a turn into the channel to go between the pillars. By the time they get power restored - less than a minute later, I believe - the ship is drifting straight toward the pillar. These things take time to turn and get on a new course even at slow speed, so even if they went full reverse or full turn, it was too late

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Oh so this was a "when" question not an "if" question

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For what it's worth, this ship would have been controlled by a pilot from the port itself - when big ships enter ports a professional harbor pilot gets ferried out to them and does all the driving as they're familiar with the port.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That is such a nepotism rich job. I've first hand seen the big adult failsons that barely supervise the bridge pilot their own vessels in while collecting tens of thousands of dollars. For the military at least it's just a little noticed financial grift.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Depends on the port though. Some places it's a failson gig, other places it's pretty strictly controlled since the waters are tricky and there's bridges to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The position itself is necessary (though I'm sure there's plenty of failsons doing it out there) as waters around ports are often tricky and require local knowledge. It also ensures that the port itself has some level of control over the caliber of person captaining ships around it so that you're not getting some half-trained 14-year-old piloting a ship several hundred times larger than the landlocked village he grew up in around your critical infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Dali 'lost propulsion' before hitting bridge
An unclassified memo from the government agency CISA - the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency - has confirmed that the Singapore-flagged vessel Dali "lost propulsion" and collided with "a supporting tower of the bridge".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

It looks like the rudder got stuck and they were unable to move it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Container ships are massive. I don't know about the culture aboard Singaporean ships, but there's a bunch that have people overworked and understimulated which leads to them getting drunk and falling asleep on deck. "Drunk russian sailors crash into bridge" used to be a meme for a reason. On top of that ships are heavy as fuck and they're going in water so they'll just drift. Add in weird currents, having to dodge other ships, maybe a bowthruster that's fucked beyond usage and a couple other minor issues and you've got a recipe for an issue.

It's rare for these issues to culminate into problems in a port though, because the ship has to be sailed by a local navigator - a pilot who knows the waters (and someone we can trust not be too fucked up).