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Kyle Rittenhouse abruptly departed the stage during an appearance at the University of Memphis on Wednesday, after he was confronted about comments made by Turning Point USA founder and president Charlie Kirk.

Rittenhouse was invited by the college's Turning Point USA chapter to speak at the campus. However, the event was met with backlash from a number of students who objected to Rittenhouse's presence.

The 21-year-old gained notoriety in August 2020 when, at the age of 17, he shot and killed two men—Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26, as well as injuring 26-year-old Gaige Grosskreutz—at a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

He said the three shootings, carried out with a semi-automatic AR-15-style firearm, were in self-defense. The Black Lives Matter (BLM) protest where the shootings took place was held after Jacob Blake, a Black man, was left paralyzed from the waist down after he was shot by a white police officer.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know what drama you have with property when the people that were killed were killed because they attacked someone that was armed. So yeah stop whining about that.

If we could go back to my original post, I was not complaining about the people who got shot, I was pointing out Rittenhouse's own stated reasons for being there:

he was at the demonstration to “protect businesses and provide medical assistance.”

He brought a gun to an area he had no business being in to protect property. With his gun. What did he think he was going to do with it if not shoot people (take lives) to protect property?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, what kyle did is very stupid. But what the others were doing is orders of magnitude more stupid.

He brought a gun to an area he had no business being in to protect property. With his gun. What did he think he was going to do with it if not shoot people (take lives) to protect property?

Not really, usually just having people armed is enough to deter others from looting, that's more likely what they expected to happen.

And it doesn't matter because no looter was shot here.

So yeah if you shoot at some people simply because they were looting you're in big trouble, or maybe you are, in the end in the US trials are by jury and most likely than not if you are the owner of the place it is very likely that the jury would not found you guilty, don't test it out though lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

usually just having people armed is enough to deter others from looting

So the plan was to threaten people with a gun and people are surprised he got attacked?
What do you think the plan would have been if someone ignored the gun and went after damaging property anyway?

in the end in the US trials are by jury

Unless they're by a vigilante or a cop giving someone a death sentence. Then they "had it coming."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So the plan was to threaten people with a gun and people are surprised he got attacked?

Did kyle threatened people with their gun? Open carry =! brandishing

What do you think the plan would have been if someone ignored the gun and went after damaging property anyway?

They yeah they would have fucked up if they fired on that person.

Unless they’re by a vigilante or a cop giving someone a death sentence. Then they “had it coming.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did kyle threatened people with their gun? Open carry =! brandishing

usually just having people armed is enough to deter others from looting, that's more likely what they expected to happen.

And why does having a person with a gun deter looting? Because it's an implicit threat that they will get shot. Hence, "threatening".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Are you for real arguing that armed people protecting a place are a threat to you and therefore you can use that as justification of self defense if you attack them? lmao.

"Yes your honor, this guy with a gun was a threat to my looting therefore I attacked them and because they fought back I killed them in self defense, yes they tried to flee but I still killed them anyway"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I am arguing that only an idiot points a gun at someone they don't intend to kill.
In the same vein I am arguing that only an idiot brings a gun somewhere to "protect property" if they don't intend to use it. (Whether they "want to" or not is irrelevant, if whatever situation they consider appropriate arises, they intend to shoot somebody.)

For someone to bring their gun somewhere they have no good reason being in order to "protect property" they need to be ready and willing to use it or they are too fucking stupid to be allowed to have a gun.

Which goes back to my original point: "you can take lives to protect property. You can not damage property to protect lives."

The property of complete strangers was more important to Rittenhouse than the lives of the complete strangers he would be shooting in order to "protect" it.