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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Lol if Russia or China became hegemony of any significant chunk of the world things would be exactly the same economically (at best, maybe in Russia's case we'd have more openly oligarchic economical structures the government is run almost exclusively for their interests whereas the US at least sometimes reigns in billionaires historically), but worse socially.

Is this some weird accelerationist take then? Because no leftism will come from any success for Russia, unless Pol Pot is the model here.

Because me and my queer comrades would prefer the status quo over that, despite how bad the status quo is. But we don't have to pick. We can be critical of all empires and the structures of oppression they create be they capitalism, patriarchy, xenophobia, queerphobia etc. by their nature as structures of oppression and apply both Marxist and Anarchist readings to that and be allies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

whereas the US at least sometimes reigns in billionaires

When in our lifetimes has this ever happened?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The US famously executes its corrupt billionaires, while China gives theirs a slap on the wrist if they're punished at all

Oh wait

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

We can be critical of all empires

in the modern context, imperialism describes a phase of capitalism. it's characterized by international monopolies that control industrial capital, finance capital, and raw material extraction while partitioning the world among themselves. this is a phenomenon that includes monopolistic firms of many countries (US, western europe, australia, japan). while it could be argued that russia takes part in imperialism, it could also be argued that because russia is denied access to many routes of imperialist collaboration (NATO, G7, Davos, etc.) it more resembles a pre-imperialist structure that has national monopolies and takes part in colonialism in its own sphere of influence that is demonstrably separate from the imperial core. but China is not imperialist: monopolistic practices are cracked down on by the government, less than 40% of enterprises are privately owned, most of the raw material extraction is state-owned, and they dont engage in colonialism. we like China here because they are in direct opposition to imperialism and they are a great example of the successes of socialism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, honestly. Thanks for the explanation of your perspective.

I still oppose China on the whole largely due to social issues (and it's policies towards Taiwan) rather than economic, but also definitely acknowledge that it's had some great successes and that overall it maintains a good SoL for it's people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Taiwan is part of China, they lost the civil war

Supporting Taiwan is basically like supporting the Confederacy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Don't all peoples have a right to self-determination free from state interference?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

the US at least sometimes reigns in billionaires historically

citations-needed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, what about Howard Hughes?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Fucking laughable citation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Lol if Russia or China became hegemony of any significant chunk of the world things would be exactly the same economically

A thief believes everybody steals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My comrade in Christ, do you seriously think Russian oligarchs - who picked the corpse of whatever was left of nationalized infrastructure to give themselves unfathomable riches and own entire sectors of the economy - wouldn't?

These are capitalist vultures in as straight-forward a manner as possible.