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It literally cannot control the Egypt border considering the fact they are not in. If Gaza had normal relationship with Egypt, maybe we could start believing Israel is the problem here but if none of Gaza's neighbors/any other Muslim countries are willing to take Gazans in, the problem must be somewhere else than in Israel.
Edit: Before 7th of October, there were more people of Gaza coming to Israel on daily bases rather than to Egypt. Why are we blaming israel of "occupation" and not Egypt?
Under a 2007 agreement between Egypt and Israel, Egypt controls the crossing but imports through the Rafah crossing require Israeli approval.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/15/rafah-border-crossing-could-egypt-open-it-to-fleeing-palestinians
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/israel-gaza-rafah-border-open-crossing-egypt-explain-war-palestine-hamas/article67437358.ece
Based on what are you saying this? Are you trying to make it sound like there is something inherently wrong with Gazans? Genetically maybe? Or are you trying to imply that Egypt's attempt to prevent a Nakba 2.0 is somehow actually just a reflection of this weird ass racist trend?
If Israel puts people in an open air prison then bombs the shit out of them so hard that everyone starts calling Bibi Hitler, then how is this the fault of Gazans?
Unless I detect racism of course. That smug "smart" racism with the whole "iM jUsT sAyIng" attitude?
It would be better for everyone if you would refrain from beating around this bush.
I have never said that there is something genetically wrong with Gazans. However, it’s a simple fact no one is willing to take them during the war compared to Ukrainians, for example.
It’s an unfortunate situation for them because the leading party is an extremely radical leadership that radicalizes the whole population. Is it their fault? In my opinion no but at the same time certain attacks and escalations cannot be justified.
Is it a simple fact or is it some BS you pulled out of your behind?
Did any country take Palestinians in during this (or any) escalation?
Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, etc.
Yes and there was a military conflict between them and the country that has taken them each time.
But your point is still wrong..
Don't squirm around like that. Live up to the shit yoy say.
What are you referring to as wrong. Were there uprisings each time someone took Palestinians? Yes.
So maybe that’s one of the reasons no one is willing to take them compared to Ukrainians.
Uprising or not, it still cpntradicts your claim about how no country took them in. No point changing goalposts. Your claim wss falsw, just admit it.
Every one of those countries has Palestinian refugees (I am one of them). Jordan may be a shithole, but they never rejected Palestinian refugees even after all the business with the freedom fighters.
You are trying to twist this. Why should they go anywhere???? Their fucking home is Gaza and Palestine. Egypt knows that if Israel ethnically cleanses Palestinians again, they will never be able to return. So please, stop twisting and turning. There is nothing wrong with Gazans or Pallestinians, and honestly any claim otherwise just stinks or racism.
What if I asked myself this question about Jews??? Would that be acceptable to you?
If not, then why on earth would it be acceptable to me?
Why should Gazans go anywhere? Simply because there is a war in their country. That does not mean they are leaving forever. Just like thousands of civilians left Ukraine when the war started does not mean they will never return home.
I am not saying there is something wrong with Gazans or that this situation is their fault, however, I at the same time fully understand that no other country would temporarily take them in. Also, how my claim is wrong? How many refugees from Gaza left the area since the beginning of this escalation?
Edit: Regarding Jews: I think it’s completely understandable for civilians to temporarily leave Israel when the war is there. Of course, only if other countries would be okay to take them in.
It doesn't mean they are leaving forever? Lmfao.
Then why am I not in an apartment in Tel Aviv now (where my father's family was ethnically cleansed from during the Nakba)??
Edit: seriously, I'd like an answer. Why was the fucking ethnic cleansing of my family never fixed? Why did I never have the right tp return? And how would you gurantee this to Gazans?
Guarantee is unfortunately impossible. Like in every war. It’s a choice between staying in the battlefield and risking your life or leaving and risking your country.
Regarding Nakba: it was not right. Israel shouldn't have done that just like muslim countries shouldn't have expelled Jews.
And the reason why it was not fixed is simply because backtracking all humanity's mistakes is not possible and creation of new states/regimes usually have these consequences.
Ah thanks, so I should settle simply because Israel is unwilling to make amends or fix annything. Got it. /s
Rather because tracking back all mistakes humanity ever did is nonsensical.
Right, so how would you gurantee a right of return for Gazans? They would be idiots to leave given Israel's history of ethbic cleansing and land theft.
I cannot guarantee that. It would have to be guaranteed by the government in Gaza.
Right... I really wonder where you get this nonsense from.
But no, Israel is the one who would prevent them from returning, just like it prevented every single one of my grandparents and their families from every returning.
Is it a rule that because you lived somewhere, you have ultimate rights to that place or what? So theoretically if I find out that my ancestors owned a huge castle 1500 years ago, should I be able to just claim it?
edit: grammar fixes
... Now I am sure you ar a troll.