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submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"ohhhh, punk has been made too widely palatable and for everyone. REAL punks are like presbyterian minister mr rogers!" there are still hardcore bands out there! you can go see them if you want! i bet this person would listen to the ramones and go "umm, he wants to sniff glue? are we glorifying drug addiction now? this is SO not punk!"

there are people in the notes going "yeah! this is so true!"

i think this is part of a broader trend of people feeling to need to justify everything they enjoy, it can't just be a show they remember fondly from when they were a kid, it needs to be punk

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like "punk" gets mis-attributed as "authenticity" so much. Mr. Rodgers seemed like a guy who walked the walk and that gives him authenticity, but it sure doesn't make him punk.

Edit: Ruminated this a bit and I feel like the attribution of "punk" is probably because it's the last widespread cultural touchstone where "authenticity" was an assumed component of it. (I don't think this reflects the reality of it though, the Sex Pistols were a boy band after all).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

My punk credibility is super high and yup, also it's been an ongoing thing in a very underground capacity for the last 30 years and people's last mainstream touchstone is the 90s. DIY punk has been an ongoing international network that's grown since the 80s and lets bands from Columbia or Russia play anarchist community centers or peoples basements and still make enough to get home and hopefully some pocket change, bands get well fed and drink for free in any town that has its scene together enough to get touring bands. But yeah, there is a pretty deep and historically long rooted international diy punk network and if you're around long enough you can easily contact just about anyone cause everyone is a friend of a friend and being a Rockstar isn't allowed everyone in the audience is also in bands generally, there isn't really a division between bands and Fans and the worship that comes with it. The second singer for Black Flag lives in BC and picked my friends up from the airport on their first tour. He also still has to work a day job. People just really like punk enough to do this work.