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Anything about the lemmy.ml instance and its moderation.

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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.

We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.

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Recently there seems to be some of misunderstanding what the lemmy.ml instance is about, especially from newer users.

Lemmy.ml has always been a niche site, and it will most likely stay this way. We don't have any intentions to turn it into a mainstream instance, or set a goal of getting as many users as possible. Our goal is simple: make an instance that people like to use. I would say that we have been successful in this, but obviously it is impossible to satisfy everyone.

The reason for this is that @dessalines and I are paid to develop Lemmy, while donations from lemmy.ml users only make up a negligible part of our income. Besides, having more users would force us to spend more time moderating, and less time for development. Lemmy works quite differently from big tech sites like Reddit in this regard: while they get more money with each extra user through advertising, for us it is the opposite. So we would much rather have a smaller, non-toxic, and friendly userbase, than a large one.

Part of the problem might be that lemmy.ml is described as "flagship instance", which can certainly be interpreted to mean "mainstream" or "general purpose". I struggle to come up with a better, more accurate description. If you can think of one, please comment here.

If you dont like the way lemmy.ml works, thats okay. Federation exists exactly to solve that problem, let different groups have their own instances, with their own rules and political views. You can see the list of existing instances, and instructions for setting up a new one on join-lemmy.org.

In particular, I would like to see someone (or a group of people) create a mainstream, or liberal instance. That should help to avoid further drama, and avoid attempts to turn lemmy.ml into something that it is not. @dessalines and I would certainly be willing to help with any technical problems that such an instance runs into, and include it on join-lemmy.org (just like any other instance that meets the code of conduct).

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

This isn’t bitching so much as a curiosity. Here in Lemmy.ml, would it be considered abusive for an admin to actively participate in a discussion, then get upset and delete the same comments they themselves have been replying to?

I’d just like to clarify the administration posture of this instance. There are lots of accusations of unfairness here. I don’t know if that’s an individualistic thing or a matter of policy.

Mainly asking so I can more easily identify what discussions are not safe to participate in.

Cheers!

Tl;Dr: No, avoid conversations with mods/admins

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Heya, I am trying to create a second account for managing a community of the same name.

Are user application rejections accompanied by an email?

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Starting today, I noticed that posting a comment takes upwards of 2-3 minutes until it's committed (the "reply" button is turning round and round for a long time). Is there something wrong with the servers or some sort of moderation? Not sure what's going on or why.

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Hello! I'm relatively new to the Fediverse, and still getting to know how it all works as a long-time lurker from Reddit. I've noticed that some posts and comments have censorship, where the b-word, r-word, and others are replaced with "removed" regardless of context. I was wondering if that is a setting I missed, or determined by being on the *.ml instance, or otherwise. Additionally, I've noticed that I don't have access to the same communities as my friends on *.world, and was curious if there was a list of differences or communities that might be censored for some reason. Any tips on where to go to figure this out would be super appreciated!

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I know that lemmy's moto is if you don't like it here make your own, but for communities with big sub numbers and where current event discussions happens. banning controversial political opinions is not what I would have expected from the fediverse after having left corporate media, which could be excused for having to answer to investors and what not!

After I got a comment banned for what I think is nothing else but controversial, where it received quite the same amount of upvotes and downvotes, I took a look at that community's mod log, and there is nothing to be cheerful about. the same reddit mods have made it to the fediverse and are trying to turn it into the same hive mind other social media are, it is a shame it is turning out to this.

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Edit: I was searching for a "meta" community, since this is a post on Lemmy about current Lemmy limitations... But it turns out that this might very well be off topic. I apologise if it is the case... I would gladly take suggestions on what community would be best for this post, BTW.

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Since Reddit is now explicitly planning to sell user generated content for AI training. It got me thinking about Lemmy.

What license are posts and comments assumed to be under on this instance? Is there an overarching lemmy policy (there doesn't seem to be)?

Is it down to the user to specify, if so how?

Are there any downsides with adopting a Creative Commons or other copyleft license?

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This might spark outrage but can we note ips to accounts so if they mass register, other servers get notified through federation and deactivate those (new) accounts or block registration at all?

The idea would be:

  • I register an acocunt, my ip gets noted, I assume they federate immediately?
  • i register another account on the same ip since no relog/isp change happened, my ip came through federation, i dont get blocked since this could have been a mistake
  • i register another account, gets blocked for mass registration

The obvious way around this would be changing your ip constantly but its at least uncomfortable for an attacker.

Now comes the kicker:

  • I start spamming, get banned
  • I spam with another account, same ip, same ban reason on another server, ip ban gets triggered since they’re close in time
  • ip ban shuts me down for 12 hrs? i will change the ip anyway but it slows down the attack again and makes automation hard.

Feel free to poke holes in this. i‘m trying to find solutions, not be right. But please be gentle, I‘m trying to help.

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I followed some popular communities from a Mastodon server ages ago, and then unsubscribed when I was satisfied that it was working.

However, lemmy seems to have some problem with the way Mastodon sends an 'Undo/Follow', so it's still been sending traffic ever since. Recreating it on a lemmy server I booted, journalctl shows this error:

WARN Error encountered while processing the incoming HTTP request: lemmy_server::root_span_builder: Unknown:
0: lemmy_apub::insert_received_activity
        with ap_id=Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("activitypub.academy")), port: None, path: "/e97071d0-54e4-4527-9865-e44cf1a55970", query: None, fragment: None }
          at crates/apub/src/lib.rs:191
1: lemmy_apub::activities::following::follow::verify
          at crates/apub/src/activities/following/follow.rs:78
2: lemmy_apub::activities::following::undo_follow::verify
          at crates/apub/src/activities/following/undo_follow.rs:66
3: lemmy_apub::http::community::community_inbox
          at crates/apub/src/http/community.rs:50
4: lemmy_server::root_span_builder::HTTP request
        with http.method=POST http.scheme="https" http.host=38ec-77-100-144-83.ngrok-free.app http.target=/c/test1/inbox otel.kind="server" request_id=70c556c1-9f2c-421d-90f3-826e9d12879c http.status_code=400 otel.status_code="OK"
          at src/root_span_builder.rs:16

I reconfigured the JSON that Mastodon sends to be more like a Lemmy one, signed the http request with a new set of keys, and sent it via a command-line script. Technically, this works, in that I can use the script to subscribe and unsubscribe from lemmy communities. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with the private key for the old Mastodon user and lemmy.ml (which rejects the http requests). I don't know why, but it has stalled my attempts to unsubscribe from my side.

As you're likely aware, lemmy.ml has bouts of sending out an absolute firehose of info at times, and it's a waste of your resources sending them to me (who's resorted to 403ing everything, so they don't overwhelm the ActivityPub server I'm building).

So, if possible, can someone have look what a user from lemmon.website is still subscribed to (memes and asklemmy, certainly) and unsubscribe them please?

I can provide some credentials on lemmon.website if you require.

Thanks.

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We'd like to add some more CI runners for lemmy jobs, cause we have very few right now. If anyone has any spare builder machines, pm me. It'd be greatly appreciated.

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During the "big move", I subscribed to a bunch of emerging communities.
Now that the craze has died down, lots of these communities have been abandoned for 3 months or so.

Are these communities worth preserving, or do they take up unnecessary space and could be removed?

Just genuinely interested, I'm sure other instances have their own methods of handling that but was wondering how it's managed here.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/6423745

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/6400327

In case anyone is wondering, it's rqd2.

The definition of paraphilia is "a condition characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.", which can inclde pedophilia.

Don't be fooled by their rules, one of their biggest communities is a "MAP" community where they openly discuss pedophilia. They're likely larping as LGBTQ+ to make them look bad.

It has recieved 4 censures from fediseer due to the content contained on that instance

Not a good look for Lemmy to be promoting any instance like that.

You can see for yourself here

Update: A pull request was sent to remove the sus instance. It should no longer show up soon

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Follow up on a previous post: [DISCUSS] Recent momentary outages


I've been working on a simple opt-in solution, primarily for Lemmy end users like me (but also helpful for admins), to easily check the status/health of their favourite instance.

🌎 lemmy-meter.info

You can find the details of the implementation in lemmy-meter github repo.


❓ @admins: would you be interested in adding your instance to lemmy-meter?

You don't need to do anything except confirming - I'll handle the rest. It should only take a few minutes for your instance to show up in lemmy-meter.

Out of the box it will send only 4 HTTP GET requests per minute to your instance. However that is totally configurable if it sounds too much or too little.


PS: I wasn't sure how to reach out to the admins short of messaging them individually.

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when clicking on "Show context" on a comment in notifications https://lemmy.world/comment/3834805

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Tried to make on new account on lemmy... It did work in the end (obviously). Good thing there is the audio version to read it for me. (sarcasm, I know it's supposed to be for accessibility purposes. Still used it though)

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I can see these comment to my posts in the notifications, from apps or website, but not in any other page.

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Issue (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

Idk if it's just me, but lemmy won't let me attach images to posts. Idk if it's my instance or my client, but it's really annoying.

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Lemmy, in particular lemmy.ml, is so good that I've got completely used to checking it out almost every hour to enjoy the content. Kudos to all the mods and developers ❤️


Recently, in the past few weeks, I couldn't help but notice that momentary outages of lemmy.ml, ranging from a couple of mins to longer than 30mins, have become more frequent.

Is my observation correct? Or I'm just addicted to Lemmy? 😂

If it is correct, have we got any idea what are the possible causes of the outages? In particular, I'd like to know if there's anything that I, as a member of this safe & welcoming community, can do to potentially help ¹.


On a related note, if the outages are of such a nature that may be predicted but not prevented (such as routine maintenance restart, load-testing or new feature deploy), do you folks think it makes sense to have a post here in "meta" at least a few mins prior to the action?

¹ I've got about a quarter of a century experience dealing w/ code and systems.

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just asking

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Basically, title.

I have a request for [email protected] on [email protected] since 8 days.

Dessalines is the only mod there, but I guess he has bigger fish to fry.

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Some context about this here: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/openai-details-how-to-keep-chatgpt-from-gobbling-up-website-data/

the robots.txt would be updated with this entry

User-agent: GPTBot
Disallow: /

Obviously this is meaningless against non-openai scrapers or anyone who just doesn't give a shit.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/342332

Useful.

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Gord Review (www.youtube.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/342324

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