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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Speaking of unused music, the final TMP/TNG theme itself was almost different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbdhC-OXXa0

There's an interview where they tell stories, and apparently after they made this early version of the music, Robert Wise listened to it and gave the best three word critique ever - "There's no theme!"
Goldsmith basically went "...oh.", then went back and reworked what he had already into the 2nd version, and there you go that's the final theme.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was there ever a time when it wasn't shitty?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Re-arranged for a smaller orchestra, and more energetic (most noticeable in the percussion)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I saw a lot of opinions back in the day about it, and it almost seems like people were offended that they even tried to break the mold at all.

I don't actually mind Faith Of The Heart for the intro. My biggest problem with it is that its not an original song - it was written specifically for a movie that was completely unrelated to Star Trek.
I would probably appreciate it more if they wrote their own song for ENT - it could even be a country/pop song like FOTH, but it would still be a Star Trek song.
They definitely cherry picked the best bits of the song for the intro though. I like their cover more than the original.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually, if you've watched TNG's early seasons, you've already heard this unused theme, in bits and pieces.
The very first piece of music heard in TNG ever (that isn't the intro itself) is a slower, less energetic (more introspective I guess?) version of that unused theme.
The main leitmotif itself appears all over early TNG.
I figure that, when Maccarthy was writing the early filler music, he assumed that his theme would become the main theme, and so heavily leaned into it when writing the filler music. Obviously, the main theme was tossed - but not his other music.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The TMP nacelles are very 70s (lol), but the rest of the ship looks so good that it makes you overlook it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah they're still messing around with bespoke stuff at that time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

what these are:
TMP, WOK, 3/4/5/6, TNG/DS9/VOY, ENT, Nemesis, NewTrek

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't just include it as text though. Rather, present the question as text in a picture.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bonus points when they try to bring fate into it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean you could probably fit a few bags inside his presumably hollow hologram

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

and that's the problem with streaming games

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