haroldfinch

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It’s known as false dilemma, a logical fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Appeal to ignorance

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Great comment. Here is an excerpt from Nord VPN's TOS

8.2 You agree that you shall not yourself and/or enable others to: •use, assist, encourage, or enable others to use the Services/Websites for any unlawful, illicit, illegal, criminal, or fraudulent activities, including ... digital piracy ... which might negatively affect provision of our Services to other users;

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I actually live in the US. And New Zealand is not a third world country.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

~~But it's VPN providers who rent the servers that have downloaded the torrents. So they can basically say it's not done by us, but the users of our service, and thus they don't bear any consequences? It seems like such a good business model.~~

VPN providers do not bear any responsibilities for providing services for piracy.

The DMCA's principal innovation in the field of copyright is the exemption from direct and indirect liability of Internet service providers and other intermediaries.

So technically if VPN providers do not keep logs, you are fine. But since it's impossible to know how VPN providers servers are implemented, still there are risks.


I mostly use public trackers. Maybe it's just my ISP doesn't care.

 

I've noticed many people promote VPNs for torrenting to evade legal troubles in some places. But I wonder how do VPN companies get away with legal complaints? Especially if their servers are located in Germany or Japan, where piracy is heavily penalized.

p.s. I have never used a VPN for piracy, and I have never received any DMCA emails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's impossible to escape the surveillance of those three letter agencies. We only got a brief glimpse into the other side of the curtain back in 2013, and there is no idea how advanced their surveillance technologies are, so why bother for a normie?

It's also painstaking if not impossible to wipe all your metadata from the internet, which can later be mined to infer personal data and sold by data brokers. Not to mention that people have jobs and use their credit cards, no way even to hide the most important personal identifying information.

So using Signal, despite being centralized, is not too bad at all. Very few people can totally sacrifice convenience for privacy.