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I mentioned this in a comment last week and was called a sexist for not supporting women, because I dared to say a Cheney endorsement was bad for Dems.

This has nothing to do with her gender. In fact, I just said 'a Cheney.' Dick Cheney also supported Kamala and that made people want to vote for her even less than Liz did. The fact that Kamala's positions are so far to the right that known war hawk Dick Cheney threw his support behind her is a BAD thing for a lot of left wing voters.

We weren't talking about people who voted for Trump instead of Kamala. We are talking about 15 million people who didn't show up because there was no one running that supported their values.

So some people felt they had no one to vote for.

..with a Cheney*

Agreed. We seemed somewhat close with Bernie, but we saw how that ended. But he had support, and he could've held more power over the DNC if he had refused to endorse Hilary without MAJOR concessions from the party.

But that could've ended with Trump winning in 2016, and nobody wanted that, so he sold out his values and toed the party line. Didn't seem to work out.

I think you've hit on major common ground, that all people should be able to see. The extremely wealthy have too much power and they are an extreme minority. Until someone, or a coalition of people stand up for that single issue and are willing to vocally withhold support from mainstream Dems, this problem will never be addressed in the US

Yes, but if you pledge unconditional support to the lesser of 2 evils, they have no incentive to 'be better' - they can just be slightly less evil than the monster who gets worse every day.

I did vote blue even though I wasn't happy about it and it mainly came down to 'i really haven't done much to express my distaste over the past 8 years, why am I choosing to protest the Dems today?'

But I do think this is a turning point for me. I want to be having these conversations more often, I want to be more involved, and I want to make it known to the people in charge: what can they do to earn my vote. I think starting to define what are the universal ideals we can agree on is a great conversation to have over the next few weeks.

Just like it's been approved for the past year.

Hahaha I didn't even think to check that. Wild

If a neoliberal party can't win 2 out of 3 elections against a fascist, maybe they should pivot away from neoliberalism.

Right, "did Biden drop out" had a spike as seen in the first picture below. It's hard to tell magnitude. When comparing to another phrase, it's easy to see that the spike wasn't even close to the spike for another election day phrase: 'who is Kamala?'

Jacob is similar. It is derived from an old Hebrew names and there are a ton of variants (including James and Diego)