david

No, with the party list system, any one party which gets north of something like 60,000 votes gets an MP and the party chooses who gets the seat, so the leader cannot lose their seat. They are immune from becoming unelected, no matter how unpopular.

In our current system, if you can't find a locality that wants you, you lose. Reform might have got a lot of votes, but its candidates are very unpopular, for good reason, and they don't win elections much. It's only because the Conservatives have been a total shit show that they got any MPs at all.

He lost his seat! Let's hope it's forever.

That "99% certainty" isn't aging well.

The far right are part of several coalitions in countries with PR, though. It doesn't vaccinate your political system against that. The main thing you can do to reduce the march of the far right is to make people feel like their lives are getting better and better.

The party list system would mean that Nigel Farage was never out of parliament in the last ages. He would win every time.

To be fair, the PR result is far, far worse than what we have - only 4 Reform seats. It's not a great time to be selling PR.

You make very good points.

Sweet of you to call me babe. How much did I drink last night?

Title: George Carlin Doesn't Vote. Reaction: Idiot.

Subtitle: George carlin speaks the truth, Voting Is another way to keep you in a closed distracted bubble. Reaction: George Carlin is working to bring about the end of democracy in the USA. Clearly he doesn't believe in it. I do.

I think being an independent suits Corbyn. He's always been more of an independent campaigner than a party MP. All the best to him now he's free of the whip.

Slime is the word.

Historically, people turn to the far right when things are going terribly wrong. The conservatives ran the country into the ground and legitimised everything the far right stood for, then were upset that people started voting far right. I say it was unsurprising. Why not vote Reform if you're a rabid racist and your usual party are about the same policywise but have a boring British Asian leader instead of a white laddish thug of a politician?

If things get significantly better for folks, there's less motivation to vote in desperation.