Veraxus

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@viliam

Liberalism, progressivism, and leftism are not synonyms. In a Venn diagram there may be some overlap, but they are still very distinct.

Liberalism and leftism are “absolutes” while progressivism is a relative. In all cases, these concepts are about the rejection of control and subjugation. If you wander into a left-leaning space and find yourself downvoted, it’s not because of “herd behavior” but because you said something wildly unpopular (e.g. authoritarian apologetics).

Whether you think something is “plausible” is beside the point. If it is unfair, inequitable, or otherwise supports, advocates, excuses, or leads to “some being more equal than others” then leftists will rake you over the coals.

One more thing to remember: leftists are so used to being misrepresented, lied about, vilified, and trolled by the right (including liberals) that there is very little patience for anyone that stumbles in and spouts any manner of right-wing rhetoric, because it’s almost NEVER someone trying to engage in good faith.

So ask yourself this: WHY is what you’re saying unpopular?

If you are willing to swallow your pride and challenge yourself, most leftists will be happy to discuss just about any topic… if you are able to build the trust that you’re exploring a topic in good faith. Asking challenging questions is a good approach; in lieu of making statements, always ask questions. Everybody loves answering questions. Challenging others leads to conflict (and downvotes), but challenging yourself leads to enlightenment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Without criticizing the use of “echo chamber” - Lemmy (and the fediverse in general) is not liberal, but leftist. The entire concept of decentralization/federation/FOSS is leftist.

If this is the first time you are hearing that liberals and leftists are different things (not unusual for those who have gone their whole lives trapped in right wing “echo chambers”): The key difference between liberalism (which is centrist) and leftism is that liberalism enables and encourages the consolidation of wealth & power (rightward drift) while leftism actively advocates against the excessive accumulation of wealth & power, as doing so eventually creates inequity and oppression.

There are plenty of products out there that have authoritarian/right wing owners and moderators, and those are the places right wingers tend to congregate. But software like Lemmy that is built entirely on leftist principles - like democracy and free access to the means of production (i.e. source code) - is going to inherently attract more leftists.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Why are these leopards eating our faces!?”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Fascists understand that the only way they can win in by undermining an dismantling democracy. Allowing the people to vote robs the fascists of power... and they can't allow that.

Remember that "small government" really means "all authority should be wielded exclusively by our very small club."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Corporations are not democracies. They contain one very powerful person (a CEO) and a handful of slightly less powerful people (a board and/or other C-levels). Everyone else is little more than a leaf swept away by the river.

Making the statement "corporations are made of people" whitewashes the fundamentally feudal wealth-power disparity that corporations embody.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm running it in GPT4All (CPU-based) with 64GB of RAM, and it runs pretty well. I'm not sure what you'd need if you were running it on GPU instead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Check out Wizard 30B Uncensored. IMO it’s about as good as NerfedGPT 4… except free and private.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you not see @housepanther’s comment right above?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There is no problem here that needs to be solved. This does not solve any real problem and only creates more, even worse problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It has gotten so, so, so much worse. Instead of OSS options catching up to ChatGPT, ChatGPT has sunk to OSS levels… but with puritanical prudishness on top of it all.

ChatGPT is basically irrelevant now.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just because a Communist regime fails to uphold the promise of returning the power back to the people doesn’t make it magically not Communist

I suppose you think the Nazis were socialist, as well? How could you write that and not realize how absurdly paradoxical that is. Let me analogize that for you:

“Just because a husband fails to uphold the promise of returning home with cheeseburgers, doesn’t mean the TV he returned with is not a cheeseburger.”

Communism has a clear definition and you apparently do not know what that is. So go read some Marx and then hit me up for a discussion that involves facts rather than fascist apologetics and bad faith logical fallacy accusations.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Yes it does. The political compass is nonsense in it’s entirety.

It attempts to separate power and wealth, which are the same thing. It attempts to paint leftism an economic policy rather than a complete ideology so that right-wing governments like Soviet Russia, North Korea, Cuba, or the PRC can be scapegoated as “leftist”.

I spelled out the reality of the political spectrum: vertical (top-down) authority vs horizontal (shared) authority. Wealth equals authority and authority equals wealth. The political compass is a lie cut from whole cloth to make people more accepting of different kinds of authoritarian lever-pulling while distrusting actual leftist policy by offloading the crimes and traits of the right onto the left.

Any other questions?

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