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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

JFC this is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a post hoc justification.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tossing around terms like "pansy" and "milf," implying somehow that someone shouldn't be taken seriously as a woman because of their haircut. Nah, this sucks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.

Like they are in TOS?

They also don’t look like klingons at all

Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?

and architecture

Architecture? I don't know, the House Mo'Kai fortress we see in season two doesn't seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that's also fine, because architectural styles change over time.

the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes

And apparently, according to experts in the language, that's the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.

they make ships out of coffins.

One ship. The home of a cult leader.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuckin' jeepers, this is grasping at straws.

There's no "lore" regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.

What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I like Disco because I think they're at least trying to do something, and that's interesting to me. They don't always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don't like it.

My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What specific lore has been disregarded?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lorca's not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it's no longer an issue.

Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the Enterprise in "Subspace Rhapsody" he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The big one -- relatively speaking, of course -- in my mind is the site to site transporting.

In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, ”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?” and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.

However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.

It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not for the most part.

I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the Nx-01 also encountered.

Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.

But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using Smell-O-Vision. The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.

So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.

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