Danterious

If you say that someone is stupid it seems you are suggesting that something is fundamentally off with their ability to reason (ie intelligence). If it is a fundamental problem like that then developing the ability to think critically would do diddly squat. In that scenario (If everyone was stupid) the best and only thing you could do would be to ignore them and dismiss their views.

Edit: I am not completely sure in this comment so I am just putting that out there.

The end result is the same but the solution would be different.

I wonder where we disagree?

I agree with you and to add on here is a youtube video about that exact same topic:

Social Rationality

Edit: added name of video

I’m fairly certain “ban plastic straws” got so much traction because it diverted from actual issues.

This is a tactic first used (and probably popularized) by the CCP to drown out dissent. It is called the 50 cent party.

They shift the focus off of specific events like uprisings and riots to things that are more palatable like parades and philosophical discussions.

And what makes it worse is that the more people know about it the more effective it is because it just makes the public distrust others more and default to whatever the social norm is which is CCP control.

I bet that other countries and corporations do the same thing and use the idea of bots to sow distrust in the general public.

Edit: The false premise would be that intelligent alien life is on earth and the government has been able to hide it this well. I bet that it is likely that somewhere in the cosmos there is at least a proto-proto bacteria floating in a shallow pond minding its own business.

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But for sure I’m sick of being told to placate and empathize with the irrational deplorables yet again.

I think I gave my thoughts on this more in this comment.

comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/2109812

A specific server for piped is broken. Other servers still work. It is a federated service like lemmy.

I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing with my previous comment but as for the power structures I view people that have these beliefs as the people that are at the bottom and that people that benefit from these beliefs (CEOs, Governments, etc.) as people at the top.

Therefore the action that people can be taking to make things better is building bridges with the people at the bottom in smart and targeted ways.

Since this was a post about acknowledging the good in others and how that should be thought about more I intentionally withheld my beliefs on how I personally deal with those people, but in reality I am not against intentionally disengaging and avoiding those people in certain scenarios. What I am trying to get across is that the animosity shown towards them (even though it can be justified) is making the problem worse not better. And strategic empathy can make a lot of difference.

FYI: yes I belong to atleast one of those hated groups

Edit: removed unecessary period.

Now there will be stories about LK99 being legit, and the “scientific community” (read government) rejecting it because UFOs are going through US court whatevers. And LK99 came from extraterrestrial origins, or whatever. This is irrational.

Or … scientists made a mistake. This is rational.

I think both are rational (consistent with or based on reason) it is just that one of them is using the right premises.

Ok, so:

1. Fix things that aren’t going well (or make people feel things are going well).
2. Have authorities we can trust (or make people trust our current authorities).
3. Reject authority (or make people believe that needing authority is a good thing).

The solutions I'd suggest would be

1. Exactly the same as yours
2. Teach people to be selective with the sources they trust and base it off of reasons why someone should and shouldn't trust a source in specific situtations.

Mutually contradictory beliefs can happen because we don't have infinite attention. I can agree with something today and three years from now agree to something else that might be contradicting to that old belief. If it is never pointed out and is not relevant to that individual then those beliefs don't get challenged and even if they do they are soon forgotten because they are not reinforced by not facing those conflicting beliefs together alot or because their social circle doesn't reinforce thinking about the contradiction.

Edit: wording

Sorry if it that's what it comes across as. I just like crossposting to different communities because the fediverse is pretty separated so I'm not sure that people are in the same communities.