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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have no beef with them, i didn't even knew they existed before today, but any group that is against all of the aforementioned groups (which I personally am a part of a lot of them) is just a terrible group, not differently then many religious or political extremist groups. Also, as it states in the next paragraph of the Wikipedia article they are connected with far right politician and Qanon, which doesn't gat any positive opinions from me.

The reason for why they are persecuted (in my 5 minutes Wikipedia search opinion) is not because they are special in any way, if not that they are kinda popular, it's that (like many other political groups, and not only the more extreme ones) the CCP doesn't like them, also the fact that they are against the CCP itself, as it is stated in the Wikipedia article probably is a huge factor.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

For my claims in the thread about what terrible cult is the Falon Gong

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

The first paragraph after the alternative names and transcriptions chart says:

"Led by Li Hongzhi, who is viewed by adherents as a deity-like figure, Falun Gong practitioners operate a variety of organizations in the United States and elsewhere, including the dance troupe Shen Yun.[14][15] They are known for their opposition to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), espousing anti-evolutionary views, opposition to homosexuality and feminism, and rejection of modern medicine, among other views described as "ultra-conservative".[23][24]"

For the quote I cite from David Zhang's video you can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npqb59Z_ol8 At 00:16 seconds

I can't source the claims I have made about Alex Jones because I heard them from the podcast "knowledge fight" around the 70/71 episode and I have no idea how to look for the actual video of Alex saying that

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

You're right, I didn't made a good argument in my first comment. I can see how I could have come out as one of "those" CCP defender.

And I also agree about fundamental Christians being basically a coult; when I said "Alex Jones level of manipulation of the truth" I was talking about how Alwx usually takes disreputable sources or missrapresent good ones when making his arguments (like when he said that Putin was a good guy and cited only Russian propaganda outlets, or during the Trump campaign screamed about that the head of the American secret services said that they were going to kill Trump when the guy actually ment that the GOP was (metaphorically) going to kill Trump for the thing he was sayings and that reminded me a bit like how David Than is saying about the Falun Gong, but without the propaganda sources, I could have explained myself better tho).

And don't worry, I have no idea what I'm talking about too, I just Google shit. He gives me bad vibes tho (Vibes, very scientific method of judgment as we all know), he reminds me of some right wing propagandist.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I'm not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP, but he specifically say that, and I quote: "Falun Gong is a meditation practice that started in 1992 in China. At the core of the Falun Gong are values of truthfulness, compassion and tolerance." But the omits the fact that that group is anti gay, anti feminism, anti evolution, is anti medicine and is leader is worshipped as a deity. I wouldn't consider someone who spread such lies as a good source, because at that point he could be lying about anything, that's Alex Jones level of manipulation of the Truth. And you're right, the CCP is a terrible dictatorship, b8t all the info that I have said are freely accessible by an internet search, or even on Wikipedia, they're not some hidden secret that need protection from the CCP such that he have the right to just say things without having to prove them.

And yes, I only have this comments, I prefer to just lurk usually, but this doesn't invalidate my points.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (18 children)

I watched a couple videos from this channel and done a bit of research and:

  1. This guy never cites or show any sources and
  2. based on his video on the Falun Gong he actively twist the Truth

I would recommend not to listen to a random guy who claims to be an "insider"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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