BearOfaTime

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you know someone is a Linux zealot?

Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Yawn, right, right.

CAD would like a word.

As would all the automation built to export/import excel sheets.

I can go on and on, even for a home user.

Matter of fact, I will:

My standard response to "just go Linux" :

I keep having to say this, as much as I like Linux for certain things, as a desktop it's still no competition to Windows, even with this awful shit going on.

As some background - I wrote my first Fortran program on a Sperry Rand Univac (punched cards) in about 1985. Cobol was immediately after Fortran (wish I'd stuck with Cobol).

I had my first UNIX class in about 1990.

I run a Mint laptop (for the hell of it, and I do mean hell) . Power management is a joke. Configured as best as possible, walked in the other day and it was dead - as in battery at zero, won't even boot.

Windows would never do this, no, Windows can never do this. It is incapable of running a battery to zero, it'll shutoff before then to protect the battery. To really kill it you have to boot to BIOS and let it sit, Windows will not let a battery get to zero.

There no way even possible via the Mint GUI to config power management for things like low/critical battery conditions /actions. None, nada, zip, not at all. Command line only, in the twenty-furst century, something Windows has had since I don't recall, 95 I think (I was carrying a laptop then, and I believe it had hibernate, sorry, it's been what, almost thirty years now).

There are many reasons why Linux doesn't compete with Windows on the desktop - this is just one glaring one.

Now let's look at Office. Open an Excel spreadsheet with tables in any app other than excel. Tables are something that's just a given in excel, takes 10 seconds to setup, and you get automatic sorting and filtering, with near-zero effort. The devs of open office refuse to support tables, saying "you should manage data in a proper database app". While I don't disagree with the sentiment, no, I'm not setting up a DB in an open-source competitor to Access. That's just too much effort for simple sorting and filtering tasks, and isn't realistically shareable with other people. I do this several times a day in excel.

Now there's that print monitor that's on by default, and can only be shut up by using a command line. Wtf? Again, in the 21st century?

Networking... Yea, samba works, but how do you clear creds you used one time to connect to a share, even though you didn't say "save creds"? Oh, yea, command line again or go download an app to clear them for for you. In the 21st century?

Oh, you have a wireless Logitech mouse? Linux won't even recognize it. You have to search for a solution and go find a third-party download that makes it work. My brand new wireless mouse works on any version of Windows since Win2k (at the least) and would probably work on Win95.

Someone else said it better than me:

Every time I've installed Linux as my main OS (many, many times since I was younger), it gets to an eventual point where every single thing I want to do requires googling around to figure out problems. While it's gotten much better, I always ended up reinstalling Windows or using my work Mac. Like one day I turn it on and the monitor doesn't look right. So I installed twenty things, run some arbitrary collection of commands, and it works.... only it doesn't save my preferences.

So then I need to dig into .bashrc or .bash_profile (is bashrc even running? Hey let me investigate that first for 45 minutes) and get the command to run automatically.. but that doesn't work, so now I can't boot.. so I have to research (on my phone now, since the machine deathscreens me once the OS tries to load) how to fix that... then I am writing config lines for my specific monitor so it can access the native resolution... wait, does the config delimit by spaces, or by tabs?? anyway, it's been four hours, it's 3:00am and I'm like Bryan Cranston in that clip from Malcolm in the Middle where he has a car engine up in the air all because he tried to change a lightbulb.

And then I get a new monitor, and it happens all damn over again. Oh shit, I got a new mouse too, and the drivers aren't supported - great! I finally made it to Friday night and now that I have 12 minutes away from my insane 16 month old, I can't wait to search for some drivers so I can get the cursor acceleration disabled. Or enabled. Or configured? What was I even trying to do again? What led me to this?

I just can't do it anymore. People who understand it more than I will downvote and call me an idiot, but you can all kiss my ass because I refuse to do the computing equivalent of building a radio out of coconuts on a deserted island of ancient Linux forum posts because I want to have Spotify open on startup EVERY time and not just one time. I have tried to get into Linux as a main dev environment since 1997 and I've loved/liked/loathed it, in that order, every single time.

I respect the shit out of the many people who are far, far smarter than me who a) built this stuff, and 2) spend their free time making Windows/Mac stuff work on a Linux environment, but the part of me who liked to experiment with Linux has been shot and killed and left to rot in a ditch along the interstate.

Now I love Linux for my services: Proxmox, UnRAID, TrueNAS, containers for Syncthing, PiHole, Owncloud/NextCloud, CasaOS/Yuno, etc, etc. I even run a few Windows VM's on Linux (Proxmox) because that's better than running Linux VM's of a Windows server.

Linux is brilliant for this stuff. Just not brilliant for a desktop, let alone in a business environment.

Linux doesn't even use a common shell (which is a good thing in it's own way), and that's a massive barrier for users.

If it were 40 years ago, maybe Linux would've had a chance to beat MS, even then it would've required settling on a single GUI (which is arguably half of why Windows became a standard, the other half being a common API), a common build (so the same tools/utilities are always available), and a commitment to put usability for the inexperienced user first.

These are what MS did in the 1980's to make Windows attractive to the 3 groups who contend with desktops: developers, business management, end users.

All this without considering the systems management requirements of even an SMB with perhaps a dozen users (let alone an enterprise with tens of thousands).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Funny how comparing countries to continents works, amiright?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, great map. Thanks, really shows some perspective.

Also, you should qualify that with "some" Americans. Some Americans have no concept of the US, like where the bulk of the population lives (65% live between Georgia and Boston), how empty the mid-west/west is, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, yes, ad-hom people you disagree with, that's always a compelling argument.

Maybe you should learn how much we're actively tracked today before making your claims.

I highly recommend "Taking Control of Your Personal Data" by prof. Jennifer Golbeck, published by The Teaching Company, ISBN:978-1629978390, likely available at your local library as a DVD or streaming.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Fine.

But today they want us to pay and collect everything about us.

I highly recommend "Taking Control of Your Personal Data" by prof. Jennifer Golbeck, published by The Teaching Company, ISBN:978-1629978390, likely available at your local library as a DVD or streaming.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wrong.

Not an idealist, I'm not even mad, just calling out the hypocrisy because Mozilla did this quietly, not telling us at all.

"I'm doing this for your benefit, but I'm not telling you about it", where have we heard that before?

Save me from people "doing things for my benefit".

Just so funny how you blatantly mis-charaterize this, even using pejoratives to label people who dislike Mozilla's arguably adversarial approach.

And frankly, they had a chance to develop a fair balance over 20 years ago, and chose to say "fuck all the users" instead. And the website owners keep repeating this. Ok, fine, I will never stop blocking ads - they chose this battleground, not me.

To take your approach to making arguments: how's the taste of boot today?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

For banking, can you use a browser instead of the app?

I do very little banking through my phone - what's there to do?

There are some browsers that support sites-as-an-app, such as Cromite and Hermit, that may solve this issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

embarrassingly slow

Yes, yes, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Use an interval running app.

I've never been a runner (had knee problems that weren't discovered and fixed till I was almost 40), started with a simple interval running app (Just Run), and was stunned by how quickly I went from barely being able to run for 1 or 2 minutes to doing a full 2k (though not fast).

A couple other apps:

Map Runner

Zombie Run (uses a story of zombies chasing you to setup the intervals, like listening to a podcast or a movie while running)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Helman's or Best, there are no others (pretty sure Helman's is sold as Best in certain regions). P

Is Duke's a regional brand?

Hmm, I may stand corrected - just looked it up and they use more egg yolks than even Helman's, so probably more like my own home made mayo.

I only buy mayo for either travel or just to have in the fridge just-in-case - too easy to make at home with a stick blender or even a hand mixer.

Duke's is on my shopping list now, maybe I'll find it locally.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Damn you... Take my upvote

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