this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
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big update, awful.systems is now a federated lemmy instance. let me know if anything looks broken! here's what to expect:

  • to pull up an awful.systems community on another instance, just paste that community's URL into the other instance's search bar
  • federation with other lemmy instances should work, and probably kbin too? there's no way I can find to pull in pre-federation posts on remote instances though, so send your friends here to read the backlogs
  • we can't federate with most of mastodon right now because lemmy doesn't implement authorized_fetch, which is a best practice setting for mastodon instances. if your instance doesn't use it, try entering something like @[email protected] into your mastodon search; lemmy communities are represented to mastodon as users
  • this is pretty much an experimental thing so if we have to turn it off, I'll send out another post
  • reply to this post with ideas for moderation tools and instances you'd like to see blocked (and a reason why) and we'll take action on anything that sounds like a good idea

federation was made possible by

  • lemmy's devs skipping their release process and not telling anyone 0.18.2 was released on friday? so we're on 0.18.2 now
  • updating all of the deployment cluster's flake inputs just in case
  • @[email protected] shouting yolo
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Congrats! Greetings from the threadiverse!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just wanted to mention that I'm seeing some divergence between the way local communities appear here on awful.systems and how they appear on other lemmy sites. For instance, on lemmy.world, here are the top 7 posts on sneerclub:

  • Keira Haven's Box of Rocks series
  • “Here’s the deal,” the Urbit crew heard the No Agency guy say. “You give me back those twenty hats, I give you back your five thousand dollars, and I never fucking talk to you again.”
  • a normal journalist meets the Urbit nerds, who repeatedly threaten her with the wrath of Thiel (2022)
  • SneerClub Classic: Big Yud’s Mad Men Cosplay
  • My friend with amnesia remembers the Basilik
  • I will never get over how the pretty girl in the photo attached is LITERALLY Roko of the Basilisk’s example of the bad ending for humanity
  • Birdsite thread comparing EA to a literal cult

Of these, only 3 are available (to me) on awful.systems. I don't see any posts on sneerclub that have failed to show up on lemmy.world.

EDIT: Switching to "NEW" from "ACTIVE" caused the missing posts to show up. The "Active" setting seems to behave as a pretty strong filter on awful.systems, but it's not as strong on lemmy.world.

EDIT #2: I take it back, even after switching to "New", only some of the missing posts showed up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

in your settings, try toggling “show NSFW” off and on again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

LOL, defeated by sneerclub's very own rules. That fixed it. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So! I have subscribed on awful.systems to [email protected] - and if I post here, the post shows up over there. But new posts over there don't make their way here. Also, I see "subscription pending" at this end, but the kbin buttcoin mod doesn't see anything at that end. I would have presumed that lemmy and kbin talked to each other OK, but then that's like assuming computers work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think kbin is a bit slower than lemmy-to-lemmy communication

You can ignore the "subscription pending" message, for all intents and purposes you are subscribed. Consider it a UI quirk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

huh, I need to check back on it but I felt like the behavior we were seeing was severely broken:

  • on prod, it stayed on subscription pending and after waiting quite a while, we didn’t see anything come from kbin into our instance
  • on dev, subscribing succeeded right away (and showed joined after a UI refresh) and eventually it started receiving posts from kbin
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

looking through the logs around when you did this, I see the requests flowing to and from kbin.social but a frustrating lack of any errors -- and lemmy just loves logging errors even during normal execution flow. I'll dig into lemmy's github issues today and see if anyone else has a trip report matching yours

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

weird - i went to make a post and a zillion communities that aren't on this server showed up. How does Lemmy work these out? People here posting to them or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"there’s no way I can find to pull in pre-federation posts on remote instances though"

Seems to be slowly syncing? I can see 5 posts in [email protected], some from 14-15 days ago.

Although I can't see the comments/votes on them (yet?). Jank ahoy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

oh nice! I just figured it was impossible

also, welcome!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oooh nice Jank, sorry if causing issues by test subscribing to communities which are a tad too active for our instance. Tell me if unsubscribing would help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i went to post just now and a pile of non-local communities were in the list, that might have been it

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