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Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit... anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I'm sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don't even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren't gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I'm not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I'm specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

Protonmail. I have over 20 different online accounts/identities and they are all Protonmail based.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Proton is run by a fascist. Its only a matter of time until they too will Start sucking Trumps balls

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

i currently use tuta. it has a free tier, offers encryption, is open source, gdpr-compliant, and is 100% powered by green energy.

i have used mailbox in the past, which is paid (cheapest tier is ~€12/yr). i can recommend it as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Tutanota or disroot.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not that many people use email much anymore

Where do you live, because I want to go there immediately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

IDK, what else do they use? Email has to be the least bad option. At least with email you can choose your provider (or be your own).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

I would assume Whatsapp or equivalent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Ah great, so a messenger run by a data hoarding giant that resists usage of anything but the proprietary non-free client.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Any of the dozens of federated chat services.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

I'm currently using Migadu. It's $20/year for their cheapest plan. They give you a lot of control over the email service, so it might not be the best if you're a noob. In fact, they require you bring a domain name. But, they let you create unlimited users, aliases, have fancy routing, etc.

https://purelymail.com/ looks interesting too. And is cheaper at $10/year.

If you do decide to get a custom domain, just some tips:

  • get something that ends in .net or even better .com because shitty companies with shitty IT departments will block other TLDs (I've had this happen with FedEx and my local garbage company). There is no spam folder for them, the email just explodes.
  • probably don't pick a domain with one of your names it in for better anonymity, unless I guess you have a popular last name? [email protected] looks cool, but consider if you want random sites like lemmy to have that data.
  • don't pick a homophone or weird word because at some point you'll have to speak your email to another human and it's really awkward to tell your bank that your email is [email protected] or [email protected] or was it [email protected]?

Also, the web interfaces of some of these other email services might not be as good as Gmail's UI. It helps to use an email client instead. Thunderbird is fine or you could use something simpler like claws-mail or even something like mutt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Riseup.net Private, free, encrypted

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Invite-only and no clear way to get said invites

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Disroot - A lot of people in the know about privacy seem to really like it.

Really though email is a bullshit communication medium and unless you're insisting on using GPG for every message and make sure your or other people's keys never got compromised I wouldn't rely on it.

Really hoping Dark Mail actually becomes a thing at some point. If it was that with locally stored encrypted email then email might actually be worth bothering with.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 17 hours ago (21 children)

Most if not all non-paid options will have privacy concerns similar to gmail, so you’ll have to pay. I pay for Proton, and though I’m not thrilled about some of the political bullshit their CEO has been up to recently, I think I’ll stay with them for now since they’re still good for privacy, and their other services are solid. They’re also very upfront about what they charge and why, and I think they still plan to transition to a non-profit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago

There's also Tuta if you're looking for an alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

proton.

Proton unlimited comes with unlimited everything on proton pass, including disposable email addresses

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

unlimited everything is not really true: storage for example

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Proton have shown recently they are very much pro-cop and pro-trump and so aren't that private or worthwhile any more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

I've been a Proton customer for over 4 years and I'm leaving because of this. Don't use Proton.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Who's not using email? I'm green with envy, but I think it's a ludicrous premise to think not many people are using email.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

i don't use email much at all, only signups at a few places.

at work, communications with my coworker or clients is by phone or in person, not email or very rarely sms. email is mainly the required communications with the state (business registrations, taxes and shit) and invoices and receipts for things we use or buy online. plus lots of spam. lots and lots of spam. oh, and scams. lots of scammers and phishers too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

I also wondered what kind of rock OP lives under. I use email every day, multiple times per day. I probably send more emails than texts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I use proton and for registering on different sites I usually use addy.io. Also, I recently found a new mail service that looks nice and might give it a try soon, disroot.org

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

ProtonPass will also generate aliases and forward the mail to your email account. But, as someone else mentioned, the CEO's politics seem sus.

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