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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Sometimes I'll just throw a baguette in the oven and bake it until it's nice and crunchy and while it's still hot I'll break the top off and just start picking at it and eating it as a snack.

This person is enlightened. Bread is love, bread is life 🥖

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Bread is best as a butter or cheese delivery vehicle.

No matter how you slice it, only the upper crust of bread society can cut it as a standalone food.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah but that factory white bread in the supermarket is literally the devil. How else can it stay good for so long?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It's not meant for anything fancy, it's designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you're putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you're misusing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

That is because it is not bread. It is simply a bread-like edible substance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bread is still one of those real old school basic foods, that comes with a decent somewhat similar old school basic price.

I don't care if it's good or bad, i want to have some money left at the end of the month instead of having month left at the end of your money.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used to make a lot of bread and things like pizza dough. I've even grown and ground my own wheat and other grains.

And then my partner developed and/or decided they have a gluten sensitivity. Yes I've tried making gluten-free whatever but it's not the same. I want my gluteny-goodness.

I will harbor this resentment forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I know it's not the same, but if you don't have the sensitivity, then obviously you don't have to eat the same food.

And yes, I agree, most gluten free replacements are kinda bad. Nowhere near as bad as they were 20 years ago, though. Took me months, but I actually did find a gluten free pasta that's honestly edible and doesn't ruin the dish with some weird texture or taste I don't like.

I only tell you this because I too used to think gluten-free is a fad and people are just "imagining" benefits from going gluten-free free.

I've had a stomach pain my entire life. No doctor ever suggested going gluten free and I even had a biopsy taken at 18 to see whether it's celiacs. Either it was a false negative or I have what is known as NCGS, Non-celiac gluten sensitivity.

And it's genuinely not a joke.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10593161/

Non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) has been shown to occur in individuals without serological or biopsied evidence of celiac disease (CD), who manifest psychotic ormood disorders that resolve following elimination of gluten. In this case history, we discuss a similar manifestation in a 31-year-old woman without serological evidence of CD, whose psychiatric symptoms improve with gluten elimination.

A 31-year-old Caucasian woman with a history of severe gluten sensitivity, Hashimoto's disease, mosaic turner's syndrome, and presumed schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type with multiple inpatient psychiatric involuntary admissions presented to the ED on petition for aggressive behavior by law enforcement. The patient had a week-long break-down at her parents' home, where she also resides. She reportedly broke several objects and threatened to slit her mother's throat. On the physical exam, she was malodorous, disheveled, and had long extremely matted hair. Psychiatric evaluation was notable for rambling speech, dysphoric mood, agitation, and irritability. Thought content was disorganized and consisted of grandiose and paranoid persecutory delusions. She was emergently given Haldol for worsening agitation, as she became physically threatening.

And all that goes a way by not ingesting gluten. So you know, which would you rather, a crazy gf and donuts or a friendly gf with some gluten tree donuts which are like sort of okay?

I'm not saying your gf has NCGS but just saying I understand the resentment (id sell my own mother for some proper gluteny carbonara) but going gluten and dairy free (casein, the milk protein, often also caused symptoms with NCGS patients, might want to maybe let your gf know if she's improved with gluten free but still experiencing some GI symptoms) may have improved her well being so much that I think you should at least try to get over the resentment.

You can always go eat out alone. But if she's maintaining a strict diet, she prolly shouldn't go to a single fast food burger place. Some of them offer gluten free buns but they don't guarantee the meal to be glutenfree as its made in the same kitchen. Also, worth asking if they're have a separate deep frier for gluten free things if getting fries.

Sorry for the rant. I truly understand the resentment and the hankering for cheesy gluteny goodness, trust me. But I also know how massively the diet can improve life quality (Google "gluten belly" for instance for some insta girls showing the difference). And I know how frustrating it can feel when other people see it as something that's not "really necessary", instead treating it somewhat like someone not liking pickles in their cheeseburger. (I'm sure you don't treat her like that, I'm talking about people I know.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

And it’s genuinely not a joke.

I'm well aware.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm confused about the single full stop. It shows they have knowledge of basic punctuation, but refuse to use it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For thousands of years the peak of life has been eating fresh bread and drinking wine, it still is tbh. For maximum luxery add fresh cooked meat to the bread :3

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

And CHEESE !

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Bread is my favourite carb, and it isn't close. I had a period in my teens of sandwiching everything. Chili? Sandwich. Curry? Sammich. Stews? You guessed it: big mess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

When I first moved to Japan and was shopping at a supermarket, I noticed they sell yakisobapan. so grilled noodles in bred. I guess as a kid I would use my garlic bread to make a little sandwich with spaghetti so I kinda get it, but still.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Woah, is it you, Sloppy Joe himself?? 😲

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Carbs aren’t evil but if you don’t want to be overweight you have to eat carbs in moderation. It’s not that hard gang.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I like to go to the bakery down the street and buy a loaf, then just eat the whole thing while it's still fresh. I'm a scrawny little spitfuck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously metabolisms can affect things. Also anecdotal evidence on a platform where you post anonymously is less than worthless. It holds about as much weight as me telling you that when I switch to low carb while keeping my portion sizes the same I lose weight.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You said "if you don't want to be overweight, you have to eat carbs in moderation." I am not doing that, and am not overweight.

If you're going to word something as absolute, on the internet, you better be prepared for exceptions in reply.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Dude your anecdotal evidence from an anonymous account does not trump reality but go off buddy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What a load of bullshit. Tell that to the Italians, where they eat ridiculous amounts of pasta, pizza and baked goods a and have the lowest obesity rates in Europe.

Food quality + more walking + meat in moderation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol how is food quality, moderation with meat portioning, and exercise not calories in vs calories out? Guaranteed Italian portions are lighter and their food has less calories per meal.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Who said anything about calories? Of course it's about calories. You said carbs are reason people get fat.

Can you differentiate between "carbohydrates" and "calories"?

So you're either saying that "food makes you fat", which is a real genius moment, or that "carbohydrates make you fat" which is simply false.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought you were replying to my other response, which simply stated that weight loss is mostly calories in vs calories out. High carb foods tend to have more calories. That’s all I’m saying here. You can eat carbs in moderation and live a healthy lifestyle and still lose weight. Like Jesus man, calm the fuck down hahaha

You’re putting an insane amount of words in my mouth here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My dude, that's not what you said in the top comment.

You're perpetuating a bullshit myth about carbs making you fat, which is pure nonsense.

Now, when you're called out, you're adding all these asterisks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Man I’m just so not interested in wasting anymore time with this stupidity. Believe what you want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, good choice. Next time please don't waste everybody's time with bs misinformation and don't click that "post" button. Thanks in advance.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually fat makes you fat and carbs make you crab

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The incessant lurch of time makes us crab and there's nothing we can do about it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Isn't Low Carb debunked? As long as you eat halfway clean and at a deficit, you lose weight. And you don't gain weight by eating a lot of carbs, as long as you don't have a caloric surplus.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Weight loss is literally calories in vs calories out. That’s it. Carbs generally have way more calories than foods without carbs. Low carb definitely works for weight loss, so I don’t know if I’d call that debunked.

It’s really simple. But these fad diet cultures we get sucked into have made us all crazy it feels like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Any restrictive diet can lead to weight loss, because you're not allowed to eat the stuff you wanna eat, so you don't eat as much.

If there's nothing special about carbs (and I don't think there is...) that's what I'd call "debunked."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

High carb foods have more calories than low carb ones by a wide margin. Which is why it works. And if it works, it is not debunked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fat has more than double the calorie density, I'm not sure what you mean by "high carb food have more calories".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Well you shouldn’t go heavy on high fat foods either. Where did I say that you should?

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