this post was submitted on 06 Jan 2025
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Good riddance. We never asked for it, and we didn’t deserve it forced on us.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 days ago (25 children)

CEO personally chose a price too low for company to be profitable.

What a clown.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're still in the first stage of enshittification: gaining market share. In fact, this is probably all just a marketing scheme. "Hi! I'm Crazy Sam Altman and my prices are SO LOW that I'm LOSING MONEY!! Tell your friends and subscribe now!"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m afraid it might be more like Uber, or Funko, apparently, as I just learned tonight.

Sustained somehow for decades before finally turning any profit. Pumped full of cash like it’s foie gras by Wall Street. Inorganic as fuck, promoted like hell by Wall Street, VC, and/or private equity.

Shoved down our throats in the end.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What are people using the $200 plan for that makes it worth it? You only get their model with their training, you don't have any access to weights or training. And with how nerfed openai makes its models, nothing even remotely nefarious can be done with it. All you can do is process simple data. Which having a purposed trained model seems the most valuable for.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Probably mostly fake social media profiles and YouTube/Tiktok AI slop.

You could use it to create hundreds of real-looking fake accounts on reddit or other social media site. OpenAI's site doesn't have this kind of fake user function built into its app, but it should be easy enough with an API. Just have a bot randomly scroll reddit's most popular posts. Then have it find the most popular comments on those posts over a certain length. Feed the text of that comment to OpenAI, instructing the LLM to make a disagreeing/concurring/answering reply. Then have the bot post OpenAI's output as a comment on reddit. Have each account comment not at superhuman speed, but at the speed that a normal human user would post.

Use these tools to build up an arsenal of hundreds, perhaps thousands or even tens of thousands of sockpuppet accounts. Each will have years of post history behind them, so they will pass typical subreddit filters like "account must be this old or have X comment karma" to post. Just keep these bots constantly running and available.

Then, when you want to use them, use them. Don't even dramatically switch their persona. Want to use your bot network for politics? Have your 10,000 fake users mostly comment on random banal stuff. But every 10th post or so have them post a comment for whatever politician or cause you support. You might even have them regularly post content of that political persuasion as a normal part of their operation. Same thing with advertising. Have them mostly post random stuff, but have them occasionally post a glowing review for a product, film, or service.

The real use for OpenAI's software is as a vector for very effective and difficult to detect and filter astroturfing campaigns. Hell, just getting your name out there can be advantageous. Are you a nobody, but with a lot of cash, that wants to launch a political career? Higher such a bot net to sprinkle your name across social media. Even if all the bots do is mention you, neither praising or condemning, it gets your name out there. The next election cycle, when people start talking about potential primary candidates for a particular office, real people will suggest your name, simply because they heard it somewhere. Name recognition is a powerful thing.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The plagiarism power virus is too expensive to operate? I'm shocked I tell you

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why is same personally picking subscription prices anyway? Should there be some accountant doing that math? Wtf

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago

Their accountant is probably three GPTs in a trench coat that’s being fed prompts by an unpaid intern or some poor dude in India.

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