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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

The United Federation of Planets straddles the line between the Alpha and Beta quadrant. They are about 50/50 on either side. In fact the line runs right through the Sol system so half the year we Earthers are in the Alpha quadrant and the other half we're in the Beta quadrant.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago

This of the kind of accurate pedantry I can get behind.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the least surprised that people made a map of the Star Trek star systems.

But I'm impressed anyway.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does bother me that (afaik) we still don’t have a solid 3D model of the ST galaxy…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's our galaxy, and it is, relatively speaking, fairly flat.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, I legitimately never knew this. I thought all these civilizations were in the Alpha Quadrant. I only remembered the Beta Quadrant being mentioned once in TOS.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the much more frequent mentions of the Alpha quadrant in TOS are less about where the Federation was located and more about where the Enterprise was assigned to explore on its five-year mission.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah quadrants don't pop up with regularity until the TNG. The movies make some mention, but TOS is set during the exploratory days where no one really knows what's out there

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And of course later on the alpha quadrant gets most of the mentions since that's where the wormhole to the gamma quadrant is located. Though presumably Voyager would have spent half of their voyage home in the beta quadrant, had they not found a shortcut.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but when The Romulans are tricked into invading through the wormhole by the founders they do it with the excuse of making safe/saving the appha quadrant.

Although I am only halfway through DS9 I assumed the federation, Klingon and Romulans are all within the alpha quadrant.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The reality is that during the time of 90's Trek there were never any official maps of the Star Trek Galaxy put out. They were kind of just making it up on the fly. So yeah DS9 does make it seem like all the major powers are located at least partially in the Alpha Quadrent. As far as I know we didn't get any official galactic maps till the 2000's, and they were just doing their best to make the haphazard and inconsistent geography of the Star Trek Galaxy make sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Quadrants never made sense to be. Wouldn't you want to with octants - having the center of the galaxy being the dividing point?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I don’t see why you would want some random arm of the spiral to be the dividing point.

But quadrants still make sense though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I spose a galaxy is largely planar. Makes sense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I was thinking a spiral galaxy such as ours, split it into quadrants. There’s some level of depth there, but still relatively “flat”

Still doesn’t quite match up with OPs pic, which might be canon?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I don't know; I always got the sense that the use of the word "quadrant" varied from writer to writer, and what makes up a "quadrant" changes not only show to show but episode to episode. Voyager spent 7 years in the Delta quadrant, while in Star Trek 6 Sulu's Excelsior was inconveniently far away from the Enterprise because "We're now in...(pause to check console) Alpha quadrant." and had to "fly her apart then!" to get to Enterprise in a matter of minutes or hours.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This map makes me more excited for that new PDX game

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So which was is the Delta quadrant in that image? Also, where does the other end of the wormhole pop out?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Delta Quadrants is not featured in that image, only the lower two quarters. Putting into context, that map is the lower blob in this:

Quadrants

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The Alpha-Beta blob should be shifted down a bit, and possibly shrunk. Earth is significantly closer to the galactic rim, on that arm that currently goes across the southern edge of the Alpha-Beta blob.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that Borg collective BJ or PJ (before Janeway/post Janeway)?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Time traveler: "Yes."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Sol system is ~26,000 light years from the center of the galaxy. The UFP is about 8000 light years distant according to Picard in First Contact. So the Delta quadrant would be ~9 times the distance that this maps shows away in the direction of the Romulans (Kathy and crew have to travel 70000 light years). That's my best guess as I can't find a reliable quadrant map.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, if they had had to take the long way home, would they have wound up stuck on the other side of the Romulans? I'm sure the Romulans would love the story about the Star Fleet ship just happened to end up on the other side of their border because of unexplainable godlike powers. That definitely wouldn't cause any issues. I'm sure they'd have given Voyager safe passage back to the Federation

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well the Romulan Government knew of Voyager and where they were because of that time Voyager contacted ~~Admiral Forrest~~ Telek R'mor through a micro wormhole into the past. Barclay even mentions that the Romulans were very interested in Voyager for some time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, that's a good point. It would have been cool to see that come back and save them at the end

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Delta and Gamma quadrants would be on the opposite side of the galactic center and aren't pictured. I'm not sure whether they would be off the top or the bottom of the page, but that yellow line dividing the Alpha and Beta quadrants is also the line dividing Gamma and Delta.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can't out-woke the Federation

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

OK, fine. You can be crummy quadrant alpha; we'll be quadrant one.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Or the mongooses! That's a good team name. The Flighting Mongooses!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, is this some intergalactic Sony vs Xbox console war?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Romulans: The damned Vulcans put you up to this, didn't they!

Vulcans: We did not; however we do see the logic in their clarification and designation methodologies.

Andorians: Hell yeah we do! Up yours Romuloosers!

Tellarites: I still think we should have called your side the Asshole Zone.

Humans: We voted, with four 'yeas' and one 'nay.' And here on earth we have a saying, "If you don't vote you can't complain."

Romulans: But- You- I- Wait. Hold on a second. Who was the fourth "yea?"

Klingons: We wanted to be the Alpha Quadrant but the humans threatened to blow our planet up. It's not our fault they can't just resolve disputes with a good war like a civilized species.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh yeah well we call your quadrant the ligma quadrant.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Not much, what's a quadrant with you?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

around 25 percent? Does the neutral zone not count as part of any quadrant? 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Ligma quadrant lmao gottem

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

What's quadrant?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This quadrant kinda feels like a beta, you know?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

What a sigma move

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And also for the entire Dominion war we forget that half the federation, the Klingons, and the romulans are all in the beta quadrant. But we're fighting to save the alpha quadrant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well yeah, because of the Federation falls, they're next in line.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

based federation

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