my roku TV felt my wrath because it dared to show me a banner ad while I was in the middle of a game.
i promptly disabled internet on it completely. now it's a dumb TV. and my life is much better.
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I want to recommend that you change your WiFi password. Even though you disabled the internet, it may still phone home.
oh it's a relief that we have recently changed it. the bastard roku is completely locked out.
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Yep disabled Internet and I cast video from my phone to the TV so I can control what appears on the screen.
Never give your TV the wifi password.
The problem is that some TVs (cough Samsung) won't allow you to even use the thing as a monitor until you allow it online.
That would have been an instant return for me.
I've heard tell of this, I've been wondering something. Can you change your wifi password, give it the new one for setup, and then disconnect and restore your typical password and continue to use the TV, or does it need an active connection?
Good question, I've heard rumors that they'll eventually get upset and throw an impassable splash screen until you reconnect, but I've never seen it myself.
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My workplace uses Samsung TVs. I found a trick to let it run without connecting to WiFi. On the screen where it asks you to connect to a network, just click right like you wanted to skip it and it will skip it even though it doesn't say that's an option. YMMV though, I can't say if it works for all TVs.
Better yet, don't buy a Samsung TV but this might come in handy if you happen to have one.
Damn so this already started?
Is LG also doing this?
I think current advise is Sony but they are a lot more expensive for the same panel.
Not sure about LG. But it also depends on model as well afaik. Most Samsungs I know that were bought via Walmart, Best Buy, Costco, etc had that issue, but one of my commercial clients bought a couple and it was a non-issue, so ymmv. I typically like Sonys, but I also have a reseller account with them through my wholesaler and get them significantly cheaper than retail.
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Eh I want to control it with my automation. But it can't connect to the wan. Have firewall rules blocking it.
It is always better to do that shit with a separate gizmo. Ideally, something computery enough that it will not betray you, or cheap enough that you can take a hammer to it when it does.
“we may collect information about your activities, like the apps you install or access (including usage statistics such as what apps you access, the time you access them, and how long you interact with them), and information about the videos and other content you select and stream within these streaming services.
When you use a smart TV with our operating system (e.g., a Roku TV model) with the Smart TV Experience enabled, we use Automatic Content Recognition (“ACR”) technology to collect information about what you watch or access (e.g., the programs, video games, ads and channels you viewed or accessed, and the date, time and duration of the viewing or access) via your TV’s antenna, cable box, game console, media player or other devices connected to your TV, and we may also collect additional information about the videos and other content you stream. The data collected while the Smart TV Experience is enabled may vary depending on your TV’s model and when you enabled the Smart TV Experience. For information specific to your TV, please see the Privacy > Smart TV Experience section of your TV’s settings menu. If you disable this setting on your TV, Roku will not use ACR on that TV, but Roku still receives information about your interactions and streaming activities on that TV through other methods.
If you use the Roku Media Player to view your video or photo files or listen to your music files, Roku will collect data about the files viewed within the Roku Media Player, such as codecs, and other metadata of the local files you play through the Roku Media Player”
Literally every smartTV OS does this. Roku isn't special. They all collect image metadata, at least by default.
They pushed these changes on Christmas Day.
Knowing no one would read it, since they're with family just trying to watch a lovely Christmas movie. Bastards.
Edit: autocorrect
The new section pertains to the California Law about biometric data collection, it seems they removed it because it was applied worldwide and they didn't want that. I used a California VPN server and the privacy policy changed for me.
If you buy something nowadays and it connects to the Internet, it's bad. Treat it like it's bad. VLAN it, firewall it, force it to use your DNS only and block everything until it breaks then figure out what it actually needs.
then figure out what it actually needs.
It needs tracking to work.
Also, I hardly see my non tech relatives following your advice 🤣
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I don't connect my Roku TV to the internet, and always use external devi e via HDMI.
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The moose is tightening.
Every single SmartTV OS does this fyi.
Common tactic is to refuse it wifi connection but looks like they caught on to this too.
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Can't even sniff digital panties in the privacy of your own home what is this world coming to?
Probably a catch-all for their next generation of Roku devices they're developing.
It is definitely a catch all, disclosure of this information is required by California law, that is the only reason they even put it in the policy. They seem to have accidentally released it worldwide, which is why they reverted it, now it only shows if you have a California ip.
Why would I use Roku anyways? It's such an inferior television operating system.
I've had good luck with it for years in comparison to Samsungs junk. I only briefly tried LGs when I bought my C3 but fell back to the Roku because it's simpler to use (as a CEC device to turn on the audio receiver and change inputs automatically) and syncs between other Rokus. It also has the least amount of issues with Plex and all my Linux ISOs since they're in varying formats that don't always play nice with other clients (like the god damned POS Xbox client).
I understand there's a lot of tracking and phoning home but it's the least worst option in my experience.
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Look at this guy with choices.
I mean - these days u go to store and buy a tv. Many people don't even know what os is on it.
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