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As a thinking experiment, let us consider that on the 1st of January of 2025 it is announced that an advance making possible growing any kind of animal tissue in laboratory conditions as been achieved and that it is possible to scale it in order to achieve industrial grade production level.

There is no limit on which animal tissues can be grown, so, any species is achieveable, only being needed a small cell sample from an animal to start production, and the cultivated tissues are safe for consumption.

There won't be any perceiveable price change to the end consummer, as the growing is a complex and labour intensive process, requiring specialized equipments and personnel.

Would you change to this new diet option?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

500 protein bars...

As if the facists will allow it...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only if I could put my own DNA in it so I could eat my own ass

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I... really don't have a reply to that. Autophagy? Perhaps?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

I'll move to it in a second. Protein with no need to slaughter animals would be so fantastic for the animals, the earth, and people.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

In a heartbeat. Although I’d prefer meat alternatives to lab grown meat. Like impossible burgers.

I don’t eat a ton of meat, and I’d like to eat even less. this option would help me feel like I’m not making animals suffer just so I can survive.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The only thing I'd wait for is for the process to be refined enough to be more eco friendly than just eating real meat. I'd do it, but until there's proof of it being more sustainable and won't tank my blood thin/thickness levels (blood thinners sometimes suck), I would be down to try it at the very least.

Though I would receive resistance in changing my diet until either my dad changes his eating habits or I move out on my own because my dad absolutely refuses things like plant based meats, so I know he'd most likely resist lab grown meat as well. It's also hard for my mom and I to switch to a healthier dinner diet since both my dad and older brother wouldn't dare change their diets to something like a Mediterranean or some other healthier because they can be picky eaters (especially my older brother).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would be wildly optimistic, but very cautious.

I'd want to see multi-year randomized control trials comparing the bioavailability of not only protein, but also vitamins and minerals from the synthetic meat and liver, to natural meat and liver.

Assuming the RCTs show no issues, then I would happily move over.

Modern meat products are on a spectrum as well, it's not just having the meat, it's what the meat ate before it became me that's important. Grass-fed, versus grain fed for beef. Insect, and protein for chickens, grain fed for chickens etc. antibiotics, hormones being supplemented into the feed to improve yields.

One massive problem the industry globally suffers from is overpromising. Just like multivitamins, which are very poorly bioavailable, and mostly peed out, they promise a lot but don't deliver much.

Factors I would look for:

  • can somebody sustain life eating only the synthetic meat for multiple years?
  • oxidative stress, and oxidation in the synthetic food?
  • The temptation to engineer sugar, and carbohydrates, directly into the meat to increase sales yields.

Green sustainability:

  • can the synthetic meat be produced globally?
  • Will poor farmers in the middle of nowhere be improved or hurt by this? Will they have access to the synthetic meat?
  • in the event global logistics fail, like an a war, will moving over to synthetic meat severely hurt critical infrastructure and ability to feed populations?
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That was a very compreensive answer. You gave me a few thinking points.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

its 3am and i laughed my ass off. why?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (9 children)

There's tons of plant based proteins already. Having already added more vegan meals to my diet I think this would just be another option for me and one more for novelty than anything else

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah. If it's the same, of course. I don't like killing cats for food.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

There are so many wrong things on that sentence.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Definitely. I see no downsides.

I don't eat very much meat as it is. But if I could drastically reduce the suffering inflicted when I do I would not hesitate.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Rimworld player found

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For clarification, human meat or humane?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The answer I was hoping for!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You really thought I'd eat inhumanly sourced meat?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

once it’s affordable, yeah almost immediately i reckon. i already go for plant based meats whenever i can find them for a reasonable price!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

As long at it wasn't even more destructive than normal cultivation (very much tbd), absolutely.

I had no qualms about switching to Beyond Meat either.

If we could figure out how to make a decent ribeye out of peas and seed oils, I'd prefer that to lab-grown too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

protein isn't the issue, it's all the bio-available vitamins and healthy fats that have already been converted.

if it's a 1 for 1 replacement, depending on how we deal with the massive and now useless animal populations, I would totally switch.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If it were indistinguishable from other meat sources, and priced similarly (preferably less!), then of course. I expect it will take a very long time to get to that point, though.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't really care about lab grown meat. Haven't eaten meat for years, don't really miss it that much since the plant based alternatives have gotten so good.

Give me lab grown dairy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

100%

I did hear, though I can't remember where, that someone had successfully gotten yeast to produce the protein in milk that is required for cheese.

I'm too lazy today to search for the article on it..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sup. No need to keep doing it the old way at that point.

Hell, you could have boneless meat, so it's even better.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But the bones are how you make banging soups....

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How does it taste?
How much does it cost?
What’s the true environmental impact?

If it’s the same, less and less, sure I’d be all for it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

We don’t eat red meat at all, so I would probably try it out fairly quickly. Actually we don’t eat chicken or the like either, only fish, which is something I miss a bit more now and then. We have a dried product called NoChicken that is actually pretty good, so that’d probably be sufficient for me to wait a bit to see how it goes long term (I.e is it truly safe to consume).

But every now and then, I miss game. Moose and wood grouse mainly. That’d probably hook me enough to try it quickly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

still waiting for the mass to consume it and see what happen, also waiting for the price too

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Its the only way I would eat meat again. But don't think it will ever become a normal part of my diet again. The plant-based meat options are just as good and are healthier. They will only get better too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I would sooner argue for eating insects vs. lab-grown protein made by a corporation. I have no trust for corporations to produce safe and emergent solutions to the problems we face as a species and world. They have no incentive to do the right thing and put the brakes on when things are looking bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always assume any hypothetical beneficial scenario is happening under socialism or another system that discards the profit motive because while we're dreaming might as well dream big.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Only if the culture medium for the meat cells is not made of living animals.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

You know the difference between a white vegan/vegetarian vs a non white, they don't try to find something that tastes exactly like a meat. There are a lots and lots of dishes that are 100% vegan/vegetarian and taste much much better and don't pretend to be meat of any sort.

If you are so tempted by the taste of the meat then just eat it.Environment isn't going to get any better just because you stopped eating meat, the animal cruelty isn't going to stop because of you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

White/non-white vegan? That is uncharted territory for me. Can you expand a little more on that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

oh you know I'm vegan but I just love bacon, and eggs. OK sometimes I like to have a little bit of lobster

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I'm a fence sitter on the eggs front, not going to lie.

I had a few chickens for some time, always made sure they were well fed, sheltered and protected from potential predators and at some point they just started laying eggs around. There was no rooster to fertilize the eggs, so... it was just spoiling around.

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