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Homeless people might use layers of all kinds of stuff to stay warm (think newspaper, etc as a common material), they also don't have the privilege of being able to wash their clothes very often. There could have been all sorts of things that compromise the flame retardancy of the clothing.
People don't typically expect to be set on fucking fire while they sleep, so it's not usually a risk to be concerned about.
The guy that did this is an absolute psycho
There's no evidence but I'm wondering if the dude came up to this sleeping woman, poured alcohol on her, then lit her up.
Watch the police do as little as possible over this. She was the opposite of a CEO.
In fairness, they did catch the guy pretty quickly.
They caught a guy, 3 days after after the killing in the surveillance state of a city that is NYC. And some compelling evidence they didn't catch the killer but just some guy that might have been in a watch list.
So we're doing terrorism charges for all homicides in NYC now right? Right?
So we don't know anything about this thug? Burning homeless people on the subway?!?! Republicans prolly prepping him to be a national celebrity
From Guatamala though, so expect the usual "alien" hate.
Fuck this guy, idc where the fuck he's from. Wildly fucked up.
I'd rather hate the lack of mental health and support systems available. If it was just a random act of violence, he's the suspect is just mentally unwell and you can't really stop them without structural changes. It's not hard to find articles and articles about homeless people attacking random people with bricks in NYC.
That plays into Trumps whole "they're sending us their criminals and emptying their asylums" bullshit though. :(
Agreed that mental health care should be a guarantee just like "health care" because, well, it is health care.
But that won't be the narrative from the "deport them all" crowd.
The suspect being an immigrant is the main reason this will be a multi-day national story. It's a fucked up way to kill someone, but even with that in mind, there's no way they'd make a national story out of a homeless woman being murdered in NYC except to serve a broader agenda.
Oh come off it. Burning someone alive is why it’ll be a multi-day national story.
How can you even say that given that the last multi-day story was a fare jumper being shot at and the one before that was someone being choked to death? Neither of which, to my knowledge, involved immigrants.
Keep stirring that race pot though.
23 people were murdered by fire in 2023.
And "immigrant" isn't a race, but if you're playing ignorant about how this intertwines with current sociopolitical movements (just like the other two national-coverage murders you cite), this isn't a particularly surprising slip up. And if that wasn't enough jumping to "stirring the race pot" paints a pretty clear picture.
Well, there's also the burning person on a subway.
Yeah I mean how often does that happen? Like legitimately?
I don't know. But I'm sure it doesn't happen so much that it would be ignored by the news.
yeah them gosh darn immigrants comin'ere stealin' our murder stories
fucks sake
No press briefing with the chief of investigators, NYPD?
In the words of our boys in blue in Seattle... She had limited value.
Without context, this audio is horrifying and has no place in a civil society.
I bet its even worse with context.
I don’t know anything about this but in my misspent youth kids would take the regulator off adjustable disposable butane lighters and you could light the lighter and then basically pour the butane out of the lighter.
Something like that could surely ignite clothing and appear to be “just” a lighter.
I seem to remember a string of copycat attacks where lighter fluid or gas was sprayed inside a kiosk that contained a cashier or person taking tickets. Think there were several deaths.
Expect that an accelerant like gas or lighter fluid was used in this case. Doesn't take much.
Monstrous thing to do.
Aren't winter jackets very flammable?
Protip from a fire performer
Buy a boiled wool peacoat. You can put out a small fire with it. Thrift stores usually have em for like $20
Thanks! Wool really is a great material.
I've recently been enlightened to the benefits of merino wool. Wish it was more affordable.
No, I think they're legally required to be self-extinguishing.
Thankfully used clothes don't have to comply with the "woke" agenda, nor do hand-made clothes.
It's pretty well known that polyester and other artificial fibers are very flammable, no?
Poly will melt rather than burn and generally self extinguishes. That's what makes this so weird:
Polyester propagates pretty easily if the fire is big enough. It only "self extinguishes" sometimes when the gloop of melted plastic falls off, or if the flame is small. But a large flame will for sure spread, especially if it's a thin and airy fabric or a blend.
(Am fire performer, I frequently light this shit on fire for safety demos)