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It's all made from our data, anyway, so it should be ours to use as we want

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 33 minutes ago

This is a terrible idea. Very easy to circumvent, doesn't actually help the training sources.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Calling something illegal in spite of or in absence of precedent is a time-honored tactic - though not a particularly persuasive one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

AI is just a plagiarism machine with thousands of copyrighted materials that "trained" it, which they paid nothing for.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago

I'd rather they were destroyed, but practically speaking that's impossible, and this sounds like the next best idea to me.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it should be a "punishment." It should be done on principal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Not sure making their LLMs public domain would really hurt their principal, their secret sauce is in the code around the model.

And yes, I do recognize that you meant "principle".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's not true though. The models themselves are hella intensive to train. We already have open source programs to run LLMs at home, but they are limited to smaller open-weights models. Having a full ChatGPT model that can be run by any service provider or home server enthusiast would be a boon. It would certainly make my research more effective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We already have multiple trained models, here are a bunch. The model isn't nearly as interesting as what you do with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I know, I have used them. It's actually my job to do research with those kinds of models. They aren't nearly as powerful as current OpenAI's GPT-4o or their latest models.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

I want to have a personal llm that learns all my interests from my files and websites visited. I just want to ask it stuff that I don't have to remember.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So basically Microsoft's Recall if it was actually good. I've wanted that for a long time https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/12921637

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Possibly but just not Microsoft anything ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

I'm working on something along these lines for myself, I think of it like using AI as a filter to create a bubble of good Internet around me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

I think that'd be ok, even with this proposal, as long as you don't sell that LLM for public use. It's fine it I draw a picture of Mickey Mouse in my notebook, but if I try to sell that picture I could get in legal trouble.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that similar to what recall is?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, except without Microsoft spying on you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Exactly. I don't want a service, I don't want to pay for a service, I don't want to send my files for free to get stuck for later ransom like Google did with email. I just want to purchase a product called a computer and load up a program in it that runs locally and gives me access to my data.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago

They don't mean your data, silly. They don't give a fuck about that.

They mean other huge corporations data.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (6 children)

intellectual property doesn't really exist in most of the world. they don't give a shit about it in india, bangladesh, vietnam, china, the philippines, malaysia, singapore...

it's arbitrary law that is designed to protect corporations and it's generally unenforceable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago

it’s arbitrary law that is designed to protect corporations and it’s generally unenforceable.

It's arbitrary, but it was designed to protect individuals, but it has been morphed to protect corporations. If we reset the law back to the original copyright act of 1790 w/ a 14-year duration, it would go a long way toward removing power from corporations. I think we should take it a step further and perhaps make it 10 years, with an optional extension for another 10 years if you can show need (i.e. you're an indie dev and your game is finally making a splash after 8 years).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

So true. IP only helps the corps and slows tech development. Contracts, ndas, and trade secrets are all you really need to keep your ideas safe. If you want your country to develop fast, get rid of any IP laws.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

they don’t give a shit about it in india, bangladesh, vietnam, china, the philippines, malaysia, singapore…

Unless it's their intellectual property, whereupon it's suddenly a whole different story. I'm sure you knew that.

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