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Elon Musk sparked outrage in Germany by endorsing the far-right, anti-immigrant Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party on his platform, X, claiming “only the AfD can save Germany.”

The AfD, which polls second ahead of Germany’s February snap election, has been labeled extremist by German intelligence.

Political leaders accused Musk of election interference, while others criticized his remarks as harmful. Musk later doubled down, calling for Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s resignation.

Musk’s comments align with his past support for far-right and anti-immigration figures across Europe and beyond.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 days ago

Elon Musk is a danger to democracy all over the world

[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Stfu Musk you know shit about Germany

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

English teacher here. Often editing to use less words can make your statements more concise and accurate. For example, try "STFU Musk, you know shit"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm not a native English speaker, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Don't listen to them, your statement was fine, your English is good, and I think what you wrote is better than their edit.

I think they're trying to be funny by implying that he doesn't know shit about anything, rather than just Germany, but it's not a well crafted joke if that was the intention.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah this doesn't feel like the place for that kind of joke plus "you know shit" reads as "you know a lot of things" to my native speaking brain as well as the other meanings and it's very hard to tell intent from text.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Oh i knew that, my reply was purely ironically :)

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

An apartheid-loving nazi calls for the nazi party to be the savior of Germany? Never would I have guessed.

The information, I as a not very politically interested German (understatement) have: We are holding re-elections on Feburary 23rd because the current government imploded. Basically, the rich guys' party doesn't want to make rich guys pay taxes and being children about it, most other parties seem desperate at this point, else they wouldn't have challenged that much. They have never cared that much, so I have no idea what changed. The populist nazi party Musk cheers for has a lot traction because people are beyond stupid and self-centered and I fear that they will get a significant amount of votes. Maybe they don't win outright, but they will realistically take second place. I regard everyone that considers to vote for AfD as a nazi.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think the real problem is that most parties in Germany that held some power in the last decades did little to nothing to actually improve the economic situation of the "normal" people. For many it stayed the same, for many others it declined significantly starting with Corona and then with the energy crisis that contributed heavily to the inflation.

Paired with us being one of the few nations that raise no taxes at all on wealth but just on income the disparity between the rich and the poor is growing. So people have only the parties that haven't held power yet to turn to.

I think it's at least partially some weird form of misplaced hope that something will change for the better in the chaos that would be a AfD government.

But you are correct, supporting the AfD is directly benefiting Nazis. And while I don't think that all AfD supporters will always be Nazis, they currently are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

For someone not very politically interested you seem to know a good bit. Please vote in February.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

American here. Can we begin our deportations with Musk?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Not while he's our president.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago

Literal supervillain

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This country collapses when the far right party is in power.

We have a huge problem. Me need young people from other countries, because Germany is pretty old.

Having those clowns in power will worsen the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An unfortunate truth is that this generation's youth is actually more conservative than the previous one...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

It should be unsurprising that he's trying to destroy other major economies around the world, seeing as that's the policy of those who he's aligned himself with politically.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Musk reminds me of that Blofeld character that was in one of those lethal weapon flicks

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Why do Putin and the billionaires he shepherds think that all this far-right democracy killing shit is so super duper? I marvel that they never seem to stop and think "this could eventually go badly for me."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago

They want every place to be like Russia. It's always been their main contention that democracy is just a sham and basically everyone is a fascist. This is one of the main reasons for invading Ukraine because he couldn't tolerate a democratic nation as his neighbour. It'll give the plebes ideas, you know.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Because Putin wants Russia to be the geopolitical superpower it was in 1960. It's a hell of a lot easier to tear the rest of the world down than it is to build up Russia.

That's part of why he's so eager for war. The last big shakeup of the global order was WWII. He doesn't have the patience to accomplish geopolitical power closer to the way China is, by slowly building up their economy over decades.

And he's right that a bunch of people dying often helps the economy. The black plage was 1350, followed by the Renaissance around 1400-1600. We're familiar enough with post WWII.

But that's the dumb and evil way to grant power to labor. You can create more demand for labor without literally killing half your laborers. And it turns out having a real, healthy middle class is great for the economy.

Personally, I believe you could accomplish a similar effect by having a ridiculously high minimum wage and mandating a maximum of 32 hour work weeks. Seems like it might be worth experimenting with when the alternative "fix" is to kill half your people.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Shut up musk. Go back to being Trump's little money bitch before he gets mad and divorces you.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Elon Musk sparked outrage in Germany by endorsing the far-right, anti-immigrant Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party on his platform, X, claiming “only the AfD can save Germany.”

I do not understand the outrage on this (regard Musk being Far-Right supporter), everyone knows Musk has become an immensely Extreme Far-Right supporter and leans heavily into Fascism. He support all the Right/ Far-Right political parties and people.

“only the AfD can save Germany.”

As usual, his claims are immensely wrong, stupid and idiotic. I mean, the afD literally tried to do a coúp in Germany;

  1. Gevaar voor Duitsland niet geweken met oppakken coupplanners, angst voor rechts-radicale AfD groeit.
  2. Germany's far-right AfD party to eject members for suspected links to militant group.

The AfD, which polls second ahead of Germany’s February snap election, has been labeled extremist by German intelligence.

Unfortunately shows that lots of people in Germany are supporting Far-Right/ Nazism ideas, tactics and ideology. Especially since it has been proven that many of the afD are Nazi-supports (especially the leaders);

  1. Co-leader of Germany's far-right AfD party fined for using Nazi slogan

From article 3;

The case involved Björn Höcke's use of "Everything for Germany!" in a 2021 speech. While prosecutors said he knew it was originally a Nazi slogan, Höcke claimed it was an "everyday saying".

This text is to separate the quote of the article and the quote from OP's post.

Political leaders accused Musk of election interference, while others criticized his remarks as harmful.

Accussed? If I remember, he did interfere with the election in America by trying to 'purchase' votes (Insanity that this is allowed);

  1. Elon Musk can keep giving $1m to voters, judge rules.
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Accussed? If I remember, he did interfere with the election in America by trying to ‘purchase’ votes (Insanity that this is allowed);

Citizens United ruling says money is speech. So in the US, this is unfortunately 100% legal.

Not in the EU though...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

can we get an Alternative for Douchebag already

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