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[–] copd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

To be clear, universal healthcare is slowly failing in the UK

[–] Piatro@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago

By design of the ruling parties, not because universal healthcare is impossible

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Even Russia figured this out.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 7 points 11 hours ago

"GUNS AND PEOPLE WHO BREED" ?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Just so you know, a majority of Canadians want to either try or adopt the US system

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The majority of Canadians, or the majority if Canadian politicians?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

That first link says that most people want the government to pay a lot more... That doesn't really seem like "we want the US system"

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 10 hours ago

Idiots are everywhere on this shithole of a planet

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I'll gladly swap citizenship with any Canadian! Come and claim your coverage by our wonderful privatized healthcare system! No take backsies

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The Canadian system broke due to abuse by some types of immigrants, failure to attract and keep docters and nurses, and the never ending greener pasture to the south that offers doctors a more attractive and better paying lifestyle than Canada

the Canadian system is broken because we have to share a border with America. It wasn't the abject horror until the doctors and nurses quit from the covid days, and we flooded a bunch of bad Immigrants in who had no interest in doing anything but abusing the country for all they could cash out on.

[–] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I love that the blame has to be pushed onto immigrants who pay the same taxes we all do. Who receive the same socialised benefits we do.

Rather than blame the government rats that have been siphoning cash away from public infrastructure for decades. Have you taken a look at Doug Ford or Danielle Smith? Have you listened to Pierre Pollievre talk his dogshit plans for privatisation in Canada?

Why come so close to hitting the mark only to blame it on immigrants that only serve to strengthen the system if they too weren't taken advantage of by parliamentary ghouls.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

While Switzerland has universal health care it's just by virtue of mandating everyone to get insurance from a private insurer.

At least there is a basic insurance package called Grundversicherung, which the insurers have to accept you for that has defined coverage. But it doesn't cover luxury bones (teeth) or vision.

Anyway I'm just trying to say choose one of the other 31 to model the US system after.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol we ain't changing shit.

This country is an oligarch piggy bank.

Our vote an illusion between sociopath capitalism+ribbons or sociopath capitalism+scapegoats. We don't get a vote on the economy. We don't get a vote to end an industry built on conning people into trusting them and paying them for years and then murdering them. Too profitable. That's why our "leftwing" party declared victory further enshrining that industry into our lives, a heritage foundation plan, to demands by neoliberals we say thank you.

There's only one way Americans would ever get universal healthcare, but we're largely too chickenshit, aside from one freedom fighter that will be made example of. So we'll continue to be treated as livestock, mandated to pay when well, then told to fuck off and die when we become inconvient to the con industry's quarterly profits.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I always wonder with posts like these, what exactly have you tried to do to fix it? We've certainly had primary choices that break the mold of typical spineless corporate Democrats. Did you donate to help save the seats of Jamaal Bowman or Cori Bush? Have you ever done any canvassing? Have you written to your representatives? Do you know the names of your representatives? Have you run for office yourself?

All of us could be doing more and doing it better. The vast majority of citizens haven't done nearly enough to have earned the right to claim that the system just can't get better.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I phone banked for Sanders on two campaigns. I call and know my reps.

I live in a rare caucus state. I'll never, ever forget the silent scowls of neoliberals as leftists came up and tried to convince them to vote for Sanders, not one of them came up either time. Didn't say a god damned word for their candidate. Just scowled and rolled their eyes wishing they didn't have to sit through people talking.

We won the room once by numbers and lost once, with no one changing their minds either time. Neoliberals just go the fuck along and do as their told without any opinion but tow the party line. Pathetic.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Who has single payer that covers teeth and vision? And when I say vision I mean good glasses, not shit lenses.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 59 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The US is barely a developed nation. The Economist reclassified the US as a flawed democracy in 2022. There were also proposals by members of the UNCTAD to reclassify the US as a developing nation in 2023, a classification formerly known as third world. The proposals were unsupported by the World Bank.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/09/15/us-is-becoming-a-developing-country-on-global-rankings-that-measure-democracy-inequality/

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 12 points 16 hours ago

That was before Trump won. I think the category moved from developing to post-apocalyptic.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I don't remember where I heard this, but someone a while back called America a "third-world country but with Walmarts." And while the "third-world" moniker is a bit dated and problematic, I think the rest fits pretty well.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 9 hours ago

The US is like the Two-Face or Jekyll/Hyde of developed nations. It’s more like a developing nation with islands of modernity AND Walmarts.

We have all this money, military, cultural influence, universities, businesses, and so many other by-the-numbers indicators of a modern society. But we don’t have the quality of life, and we just elected Donald Trump in goddamn 2024. Decisively so. Fuck.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 16 hours ago

True, the part about us having Wal-Marts is accurate. We do have those.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

USA:

  • Has most powerful military in the world

Also:

  • Can't prevent kids from getting mass murdered in school, and making it worse, it happens every week

😓

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 3 points 18 hours ago

The Abundant Life school?

The comedy writes itself, but being American it'll need to be telegraphed thirty seconds in advance then followed by canned laughter

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Well, at least half the oath of allegiance is...yeah.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

The US has never had a social contract outside of a few things like social security, medicare and medicaid. It's 335 million people lumped together with a good many of them doing everything they can to fuck everyone else over so they get a slightly bigger slice of the pie, unaware of the fact that if everyone worked together and looked out for one another, things would be much better for everyone.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Dude just really don't like George Reed.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago

Don't worry: our greedy politicians are trying to erode it in all 32 other countries too. They want to be rich like HMO CEOs but not live in America, and don't get the paradox.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Imagine if besides the right to bear arms, there were also hospitals for the bears.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

It’s so much easier just to make a few people rich.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago

Three to the power of two? Nine?

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Only 33 developed countries exist?

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

According to Wikipedia it's 40:

USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and big parts of Europe.

Wikipedia - Developed Country

[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

you forgot Japan and Israel!

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

Most of the planet is slave labor.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml -5 points 17 hours ago

The world's 33 developed nations

Colonialism brain

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Greed is just a lib euphemism for capitalism.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Eh, those 32 other countries are also capitalist, universal healthcare is proven to be possible even in the current, very flawed system