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OP, when you're out of your teens you'll remember posting this and cringe, which is a good thing!
"Racism = bad" is a solid fundament. Working out the kinks is tough, though.
Keep up posting and debating, that helps. I think that we're roughly all on the same side here.
Yea I really don't understand how people on this platform don't realize that racism is bad.
And I'm not in my teenage years anymore.
Previous post: https://lemmy.world/post/22763164
Skimmed through it, OP seems to say that acknowledging the way societies treat different ethnicities is racist.
I'm pretty sure that 100% of the people here and in the earlier thread agree that people are intrinsically equal, regardless of their skin color. It sounds like you think that because of this, anyone who supports any situation where people are treated differently based on ethnicity, skin color, etc is racist.
Let me try a metaphor.
Let's say there was a group of people with all different skin tones. They are all going to be given money, but because the people running the organization giving out the money are racist, they give much more to people with light skin, and much less to people with dark skin. The people running the organization are replaced with people who are not racist, but it takes generations. The people with less money had to spend it all on food and shelter, and their descendants have none of it. The people who got more money spent some on food and shelter and had lots left over, which they put in a bank and got a lot of interest from it. It was given to their children, and their children's children, and now their descendants have even more money.
It was definitely racist to originally give more money to the lighter skinned people.
Would it be racist to now give more money to the darker skinned people?
Would it be racist to now give more money to the darker skinned people?
From my perspective, yes.
The redistribution of the generational wealth should be adressed as well by politics but that should be independent of the racism discussion. Significantly unequal distribution of money due to inheritance is more and more dividing society. But I don't care if the rich people have a lighter or darker tan.
If you target inequality with inequality in the opposite direction, you're just feeding rightwing narratives IMO.
Your definition of "racism" is limited to disagreeing with you.
Dude, they're not racists for disagreeing with your reasoning.
Racism, of various levels, are built upon hundreds of years of mistrust, inequality and misinformation.
It's not as simple as just "cmon can't we all just get along?". And they are trying to explain this to you. And inform you that it's a difficult and long path that has to be built slowly and carefully, and each place on earth will have to build it in a way that works for them, because all places experience racism differently.
Them trying to explain this to you doesn't make them racists. None of them are saying discrimination is ok. Not a single one.
Never have seen racism here, hopefully never will
Apart from against Jews. Lemmy is obsessed with the Jews.
Can you elaborate here on what you mean by "supporting racism"?
Not agreeing with OP.
crazy crackers makin fun of themselves isnt racist
we damn well should be able to celebrate our differences, including race. even if it melts a few snowflakes
It's my first time seeing comments like on your previous post on Lemmy. I share your views on skin colour/looks and I think every human being is equal. We all look different and unique and we should embrace that uniqueness.
I totally see where you're coming from and I'm wondering if there's some misunderstanding going on. You didn't even mention America in that post yet others judge you because you're "obviously an outsider". I feel like there might be two conversations going on here that don't completely align here.
I think perhaps these people are referring to the need to put people in boxes just because many minorities are suppressed and need to be heard. So basically if you're part of a minority and you are being mistreated you naturally feel more comfortable with other people in a similar situation and thus you're automatically putting yourself in that box (I don't mean voluntarily). And in order for that minority to be heard they need to stand up for that minority/group of people.
I can see why this comes across as racist and I can totally see where you're coming from (like I said, I share the same views about equality and your looks should not matter at all).
But this leaves me with the question whether these people just didn't understand where you were coming from? They are kind of turning you into the bad guy when in my eyes you definitely aren't.
Great to hear that there is someone sharing my views here!
Yea maybe there is indeed some misunderstanding going on. I'm not at all against acknowledging that there are minorities being treated unfairly cause that's literally the thing I was doing and complaining about and was saying we need to stop treating people differently based on their ethnicity or looks since that's the cause of these people being treated unfairly.
Excellent trolling, I'm having a great time reading your content