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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Just 41%?

The pain felt in the US is still not high enough.

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You better believe they skewed this poll to get the result they wanted

I'm willing to bet that most people are indifferent, end of the remainder the vast majority are in support of the killing

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is shocking. Get your shit together, 59%!

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 231 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 113 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People aren't exactly gonna tell a random stranger and probable Fed that they support murder even if it's really based

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not illegal to say you believe Brian Robert Thompson deserved to die. Hell, you could, perfectly legally, file paperwork to hold a parade in Luigi's honor, right through the heart of DC. It's illegal to make death threats, but it's perfectly legal to express support for someone being killed.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

With the incoming administration, I don't want to be on record as saying that.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Then they've already won.

Also, the executive branch does not make or enforce legislation.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 87 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There's a teensy bit of data massaging to make the approval rating appear lower... in my opinion of course.

The respondents were asked to rank "acceptability of the killers actions" on a scale of 1 to 5.

Assumin'the average "young voter" views gunning strangers down as:

[1.very unfavorable]

(You would, if asked about murder, say it was bad As a rule. right? I would too. Ya know, unless it was justified.)

Looking at it that way, the same data looks a lot different suddenly.

33% young voters still think the killer is completely unjustified.

7% think there was some justification

19% are undecided if the CEO deserved to die for what he did

24% think the killer was mostly justified... But have reservations

17% believe he was 100% in the right

I got a little free with the interpretations but you get the idea, You could decide to frame the data this way too. there's a saying: statistics don't lie but statisticians do. Here's my 100% true alternate title using the data but presented with the story I want to tell:

67% of Young Voters at Least Partly Approve of Killers Actions

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago

Selective selection of selected data by billionaire controlled media still can't get below 41%

It's awesome how willfully they exclude or manipulate in attempt to soften the information.

[–] pretzelz@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

"Don't completely disapprove" might be better phrasing

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's the shocking point for me

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm of two minds about it. Half the time, I want to build a statue of Luigi

The other half of the time, I'm feeling the Tolkien quote, "many that live deserve death, and many that die deserve life. Will you give it to them?"

In other words, at no point do I feel that Brian Robert Thompson didn't objectively deserve to die. He is objectively doing more good for the world as worm food than he did as a living man. My only question is on the ethics of anyone actually killing him. On one hand, no one should have a right to make that call on their own. On the other, it's not like he was ever going to face justice any other way.

I wonder if this dilemma is reflected in this poll. You can believe that killing the CEO was unacceptable, while also believing he absolutely deserved it.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 day ago (13 children)

When I was young, I wouldn't have found it acceptable. It doesn't matter how badly you're treated, you need to find a peaceful way to resist. It's something drilled into my and my peers' skulls since I can remember.

After seeing little progress (but mostly worsening) with polite requests and peaceful protests, I really can't figure out how it can be unacceptable.

A lot of those kids probably just haven't gained that wisdom yet.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (18 children)

It’s a wake up call, but it’s not really going to change anything. You want universal healthcare? We need a general strike. Shut everything down for a month and demand it.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

More than that I bet. Much more.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The fact that politicians and executives consider this a “shock” is part of the problem.

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[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

I wonder how the terrorism charge affects things. Are people going to stop saying they support him out of fear or disgust? Will other people (and/or the government) go after people that say they support him because they can claim they’re supporting a terrorist? Will people become less affected by the word “terrorist” because it’s being applied in this way?

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I doubt I’m "young" but I find it acceptable. I’m only shocked it doesn’t happen more. These people making insane amounts of money off the suffering of the working class have been getting away with too much for too long.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It’s not shocking if you’ve had to deal with any sort of healthcare in this god forsaken shithole of a country.

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's shocking in the sense young people are the ones least effected by our shit Healthcare system since they tend to be the most healthy, and have less interaction with it.

You'd expect the middle aged and older with chronic illnesses would be the most supportive of Luigi, but they have Stockholm syndrome from living under this shitty system their whole life. This is also reinforced by the cable news they watch telling them how tragic it was that a man with a wife and kids was murdered.

Meanwhile, young people are just laughing at memes and tiktoks of how hot and based he is.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 3 points 18 hours ago

I think if my mother's heart condition gets worse and she needs some kind of treatment that gets denied by insurance and thus she decides not to go through with it and dies because of it that you could consider that me having interaction with the system.

A lot of times for younger people, it isn't direct personal experience that radicalizes us, but the effect a system has on people we care about.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The generation whose future was stolen by greedy, sociopathic billionaires doesn’t care if they get killed. Fetch my fainting couch!

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

That's actually a lower number than expected

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