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Denmark: Union website deindexed by Google in the firm’s latest search experiment (europeanjournalists.org)
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[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The firm launched this project after European publishers demanded more information about the traffic brought to their websites by Google search as part of the implementation of the EU Copyright Directive.

For the full context:

  • Publishers want to force Google to pay them for "copying" their news into the search engine.
  • Google claims publishers would die of starvation without Google.
  • In countries where such forced royalties were implemented, Google simply delisted everyone... until publishers came back crying about lost visits.
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If I'm understanding correctly, that sounds like what Canada did recently and Google did eventually come to an agreement with the government

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Canada, Australia, Germany, Denmark... Same thing happened in Spain in 2014 already:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Newspaper_Publishers%27_Association

Google cut out all Spanish news sources in 2014, until they came back crying in 2022:

https://thefix.media/2023/8/31/google-news-in-spain-the-legacy-of-its-shutdown-and-the-impact-of-its-reopening

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And nothing of that has anything to do with blocking the union's website besides Google's sheer incompetence.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

First, they have a news section, making them a publisher:

https://journalistforbundet.dk/nyheder

Second, the union is:

for people who work in journalism, media and communications

https://journalistforbundet.dk/dj-english

That also includes publishers.

Google did what they were asked for. With malicious compliance, but what they were asked for. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 🤷

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s not at all evil. /s

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Publishers are the evil ones here.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Hardly. The lesser evil perhaps, but in any context that includes Google there's never a doubt who's actually the bigger culprit.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In this case, it includes anyone referencing any publications. Like this post right here.

If publishers had their way, then lemmy.ml, and kbin, and you, and me, and all the instances on the Fediverse making an "unauthorized copy" of any part of the content, would have to pay.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And in your understanding, Google are somehow superheroes swooping in from on high by ... putting the thumbscrews on a union website?

I get you have an undefined grudge against publishers, but you're kind of off the mark here.