Ha, literally saw this while waiting for my Amtrak.
For medium-short trips, beats air travel hands down, cheaper, loads of space, reliable and limited security theater.
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Took a high speed between Philadelphia and Newark, NJ. Got a deal for less than $30. It was a great ride at 120mph. Wish we had more of that.
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Going on vacation soon, gonna take a train 😎
Early next year I'm looking at a mini trip into Chicago to do the Field Museum and while we could just drive there easily enough we're eyeing up taking Metra or Amtrak just for sheer ease of not driving into Chicago (both have stops inconveniently far from where we live so no time savings but plenty of annoyance and cost savings by not needing to pay for parking or worry about traffic
I always feel like instead of interviewing the CEOs of stories of interest, they should instead interview the people involved in the story.
The CEO is just saying "people want to take the train". Oh, really? That's what you think, guy who stands to profit if people take the train?
Instead, interview the passengers. THEY can tell you why they actually took the train. And no one passenger has the full story. So you need to interview hundreds of passengers, and probably get repeating redundant answers. THAT'S when you know you've got to the heart of the matter through good old fashioned investigative reporting.
Ah, but who am I kidding? Real journalism is dead. They'll just interview the CEO, and make it a fluff piece.
Earlier today I wondered if Twit.tv was still in operation. It's a podcast network about technology. I would watch back in 2005. I remember they built a dedicated streaming studio in 2010. Then in 2012 or so, I stopped watching after a controversial series of decisions. Today I googled to see if they still existed. Turns out back in July they closed their studio, and are now streaming remote via zoom. The CEO tried putting a positive spin on it in a letter that began "Beginning July q6th, we're excited to begin a new chapter in remote streaming!". This is what the CEO wrote.
So I'm SURE even if Amtrak business were down instead of up, he'd try to frame it as some kind of noble act of pollution saving, or some corporate speak to say they're consolidating their trips to serve more people (despite serving far less). The CEO is NOT the person to interview in these stories.
This goes for everything. Always point the microphone at the people who are involved and least frequently have microphones pointed at them
If you ever see coverage of a protest and they dont interview random people at the protest, add that media outlet to your blacklist.
The CEO is just saying "people want to take the train". Oh, really? That's what you think, guy who stands to profit if people take the train?
It's not the CEO, it's the chair of the board of directors. Amtrak is government chartered and majority owned by the US government, and its board of directors are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, essentially making it a government position.
And it's two paragraphs out of like 10, where several other experts were interviewed and quoted.
I have my beef with Newsweek, but your criticism here misses the mark.
Jour-na-li-sm? What's that? Is that in any way related to the text that is next to animated ads and after the cookie notice?
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I took Amtrak between Seattle and Vancouver recently. Great trip, stellar views, and overall just a super easy way to cross the border. No crazy invasive checks or waiting in lines, it was just like getting off a plane, but in the middle of downtown.
I recently took it from Seattle to Portland. It was just as fast as a car with the only difference being that we had to get to the station a little earlier, but we could hang out in the cafe car and just play card games.
Where did you go through customs? Or do you mean Vancouver, WA?
You go through it on arrival in Canada. It's the only way off the train.
They do customs after the Bellingham (going north) stop while the train is rolling.
Pretty cool. My local stop in Columbus WI got upgraded with an ADA platform recently. It has the original 100 year old structure, maintained but never expanded/improved (until now)
great, now all we need is more fucking trains
the money is always going to get in the way. its just not profitable.. because thats the end-all be-all of the untie states. profits above anything else whatsoever.
We really need a way to get from LA to Miami without going up to DC.
While I would also love that, it’s really not the best choice for most travelers. Currently we err in only driving or flying, but even in a well balanced system with a complete rail network that let everyone pick the best means of travel, flying will have the advantage for longer distances.
Even with how slow Acela is, it beats both flying and driving Boston —> NYC. If we had high speed trains, they could be most effective over longer distances, but flying will always be much faster Miami —> LA
If we optimize for time, the world is fucked. There's things more important, especially if the trains have WiFi on board and you can work and read.
Loads of folks would take the train from NY to FL and didn't complain that it took a few days. The journey becomes part of the trip. Enjoy it.
don't forget you also have to beg the freight companies to let you run those trains
Nationalize it.
Why do you want to heard daddy Warren buffet and his assets?
Are you a communist, boy?
Because efficient rail with positive externalities has to be privatized and profitable, while inefficient roads with negative externalities are a massively subsidized public good, for "reasons."
I love my car, it is free 🤡
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I’d have a train except Scott walker gave our train we already paid for away for free, because trains are a liberal plot to make America weak and communist!
The 2022 Amtrak Connects Us plans have several new lines through Wisconsin specifically (extending Hiawatha services to Green Bay, a second Empire Builder route with more towns connected and a station in Madison) and the expanded Borealis service has exceeded ridership expectations in less than a year which bodes well politically for other Midwestern Amtrak projects
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I took a train trip from Raleigh to DC earlier this year. It worked okay, but had big delays in both directions, and the seats were only a little bit bigger than economy flight seats, not super comfortable for 6'2" me. The Wifi was also out for most of the trip and that route takes you through a whole lot of cellular dead zones. Still hard to argue with a $105 round trip ticket though.
My understanding of the scheduling issues is that freight rail companies break regulation by overloading their trains and jumping the line over passenger rail.. Amtrak has been lobbying for the government to enforce existing laws to prevent it. I doubt that the incoming administration will do much to alleviate those pains though.
What we need to do is nationalize the tracks, charge fees to the freight trains, and give priority to passenger rail
We also need 4 sets of tracks everywhere, one for high speed in both direction and one for local traffic (frequent stops) in both directions
Honestly even just double tracking all of the mainlines where they aren't already double tracked would be game changing for throughput. Having the federal government handle maintence and dispatching would absolutely re-align values and greatly improve the passenger experience as it is though.
For context, Amtrak in the 90s and early 00s ran express freights and the big freight railroads hated competing with Amtrak because Amtrak generally did a pretty good job with it's freight services. So basically forcing the freight railroads to compete on more than just who owns what right of way would greatly improve both passenger and freight transport.
Personally I'd love to see a dollar for dollar requirement for all road improvements to spend an equal amount on public transit and pedestrian/cycleway improvements. "Oh you're spending 10 billion on this new highway interchange? Here's some bike path improvements and bus system improvements you could sink another 10 billion into to match"
the seats were only a little bit bigger than economy flight seats
Ohh rly? I am sorry you feel that way
and the seats were only a little bit bigger than economy flight seats
I find them to be much larger, comparable to business class on an airplane. It's much, much easier for me to get work done on a laptop (or eat a meal) on an Amtrak train than on economy seats, or even economy plus seats. Plus having a lot more aisle space to walk around is huge.
The comment about seats is objectively false, I am not sure what this person is smoking lol
Commuter rail has bigger seats than international flights
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