Can we have the names in the headlines of which MPs keeps consistently putting this crap on the agenda multiple times every year for the last couple of decades?
this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2024
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I add my voice to this request. Cough up the names.
To clarify: eMail, web chats, gaming chats, Signal, Threema and so on are affected as well
Self-hosted Matrix is obviously unaffected.
You say this but Matrix is largely centralized so it would be easy to get the biggest node to comply. Servers are quite costly to run too which is a big problem.
Federated protocols are not centralized in principle. It might not scale to one user-one server (which probably even Lemmy can't handle) but if you're signing up for a central server, you're doing it wrong(tm). Don't do that. The nice thing about Matrix client is that it allows end to end encryption, including groups. So that greatly limits what Mallory can do in principle. As to servers being costly to run, given what documented Synapse requirements are, you're looking at less than 5 EUR/month for a single server. Which can be shared among several users, obviously. This is in the same range as costs for a monthly VPN.
His point was the main Matrix.org server being way too prominent. In every given groupchat, chances are somebody is on this particular server. It is also the default for many clients.
The default links many folks/projects share specifically log you into Element & on Matrix.org as well which advertizes more folks to be on that centralized node. Furthermore, Matrix provides hosting for some of the other big servers as well even if they are not using matrix.org in the address.
Well, yes, but privacy in the current world is not free, even if it involves some own thought and planning. Being wary of defaults and being aware of implications one's choices bring is of course too inconvenient for many. But these do not get to complain.
Synapse boasts about 50,000 concurrent users on a node. Ejabberd has been tuned to 2,000,000 concurrent users which shows how efficient & scalable the setup can be. €5/mo is a lot for many folks.
Monero-paid VPSes cost more, and given this fact, my €5 VPS (with a few other services already running there) would apparently not be enough for Synapse... But an XMPP server runs perfectly.
Poor people (who still can afford the end devices and an Internet plan) can of course share the costs in a community, or use one of the many free servers, as long as they are aware of the tradeoffs. Beigers not being choosers, and all that.
You can also choose to use technologies that aren’t such resource hogs. The eventual consistency model of Matrix alone & storage costs causud many medium-sized operations to shut their doors. Distroot.org for instance had to move to XMPP to deal with costs—& I have personally seen others.
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Self-hosted XMPP using OMEMO included? OMEMO are based on Signal, hence my question.
First I'd ever heard of OMEMO, thanks dude
I don't think Startmail will be affected. Ofcourse using Gmail is free pass to your data. But look at this https://www.startmail.com/ . I think if you also use Proton or other mailing services you're 99,9% safe. I sometimes play video games, some of my friends are kids who are cursing in gamechats. How will gaming chats be affected? Does the government have access already?
Does the government have access already?
Via a subpoena, yes. Or directly via the NSA's PRISM program.
The americans seem to have figured out how to get change in relation to health insurance. Perhaps people might consider taking a page from the french history books to get some change on this issue.
The same French of whom more than a third want an authoritarian strongman in power? Personally I would prefer to copy the handful of boring countries where people actually trust their leaders and so don't feel they need to resort to bloody revolution at the drop of a hat.
Alright I want all farmers on a 30km range to join our next "peaceful" protest
Why are they still thinking they can justify this? People which do illegal stuff are just going to use old apps self-host or bypass it with another way.
They can't scan chats that don't exist. Time to make a switch, folks!
A switch to what? To nothing?
Self hosting Matrix comes to mind. With deployment automation it's reasonably painless.
You are severally over-estimating the computer skills of the general population. Here is some data on that.
Thanks. It's slightly worse than I thought. I'm kinda limited to communication with my small peer group, so I don't notice that other user classes exist.
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However they want to do it, it will undermine a key principle of democracy and a human right: the right to privacy and private communication.
Those damn Chinese and their censorship... oh wait
Some suggestions: Scan, Privacy, Control
Just watched a video of Low level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRATnT577Aw
Although this is about the US this is EXACTLY the shit that will happen to this whole chat scanning BS
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