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Marvel Is "Painfully Aware" That Its Games Are Flopping, Says Insider (www.thegamer.com)

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[+] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Avengers was arguably the only one that deserved to flop, but Guardians and Midnight Suns are both referenced, which certainly have degrees of critical praise. It's a shame, but it seems like Marvel is learning the right lesson and leaning into single-hero, single-player games akin to Spider-Man, which I think is great news.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Midnight sons and Guardians have been massive successes and Avengers hadn't poisoned the well

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but it crushed any chances Guardians of the Galaxy had.

GotG was actually really good, but was largely ignored by gamers after being burned by Avengers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

@Blackmist @_Sprite it was a great game, enjoyed it more than the movies!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first Spider-Man game was really cool, but it got old fairly fast. There's just not a lot there to keep it entertaining, or at least not for me.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was old the second I picked it up. Literally every mechanic in the game maps to something from the Arkham games. It didn't do anywhere near enough to feel mechanically fresh to someone who played the crap out of the Arkham trilogy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never played those games. Did those have web swinging mechanics as well?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Batman swung between raised vantage points, although I'd say it's a stretch to compare that to the web swinging mechanics. The batman one was really just a single button initiated animation as you moved from one location to the other.

I'd say it's more akin to spiderman web grappling between perches like lamp posts

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's just to pick up speed though, you're mostly gliding. At least from Arkham City onwards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In stealth sections, the grapple/web swing to move from ventage point to vantage point, is identical.

Obviously batman doesn't web-swing around Gotham, he uses his cape as a glider, with the grapple as a way to gain speed.

I didn't say spider-man didn't do anything differently, I said everything in the game maps to something in the arkham games. That the general structure of the entire game, is the same.

I'ts a city-traversing superhero game with collectibles, criminal control points you can neutralise, stealth sections with vantage points and vent crawling, block/attack based combat with incoming attack warnings and special moves you can use when you build enough combo. Story missions that involve following a marked vehicle from above, finding ways into buildings and clearing rooms of bad guys.

Most games take inspiration from half a dozen other games. Spider-man, is just arkham, and doesn't even mix it up in some way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he uses his vape as a glider

Damn I knew kids were getting high with vapes but I never knew how high.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Batman's stealth being given away by the sudden smell of watermelon every time

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Midnight Sons looked really good until I found out it was a turn based card game. :(

If it had been a real-time game like Diablo it could have been huge.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's literally the most interesting aspect of it. And it was something different to yet another arpg using characters that don't fit constant gear changes. If you wanted that you should've played avengers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought it would be like XCOM but the card game mechanics turned me off after a few missions. A little bit of randomness keeps things interesting but I don't want to feel like I'm playing cards I want to feel like I'm directing a mission.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oh I agree that it can be frustrating, but I'm just glad they did something other than yet another shallow action game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's why I held off for 60% sale. I think, given my personal preferences, there is a wee little best of both worlds realm if they get it juuust right. I'm not confident in anyone to hit that sweet spot, but I am very excited to build a team of my favorite heroes to manage in turn based tactic gameplay. So I figured I'd give it a shot, but not for 30+ bucks. I actually bought it a few months ago and just installed it last night, but too late to actually start it up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They had an ARPG, that was Marvel Heroes, that game shut down in 2017.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Say it was a turn based card game is a bit misleading, cards definitely factor into it but it's not like it was Marvel Yu-Gi-Oh or anything. It's actually a really good game though I recommend playing with the tiger mod. Assignment failed because the second season of DLC would have been awesome

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I had a lot of fun with gotg. A really solid game with a great story and characters that you actually cared about. Dumb action that could have been a little more complex, but it worked!