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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

Mastodon is social media where no one comments or likes anything.

It’s like a modern art masterpiece.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Mastodon may or may not be good (I don't use it), but the fact that it segments off users into different groups means it will never be a twitter replacement. The fact that twitter is essentially "public" and all sorts of people from different areas interact was basically the whole point of it.

Bluesky seems pretty nice so far and it has real momentum. Mastodon seems more along the lines of what Google+ turned into.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Had to look up bluesky. Posts are called skeets 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Mutuafuckaaaaa

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

The Twitter user base must be burned by, then kill 2 platforms before they can truly understand and ascend.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

bluesky has made better choices - the starter packs and user lists are great for new users. They managed to add quote tweets but let the quoted person opt out of dog piles. It looks like they added options for custom algorithms too.

Bluesky will be enshittified but mastodon should be taking notes if they want to pick up people next wave.

The bluesky system is just way better. The local/fed feeds on masto are just wasted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What if we're wrong and BlueSky just gets better? I mean, with some of the corporate trappings of old Twitter, but still user-friendly, big userbases, vibrant subcultures and banning troublemakers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

I mean even if it repeats "the Twitter mistake" that'd still be another 13-14 years to go. Who knows where short-form social media will be conceptually in that time and whether any competition in the space is even still relevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Bluesky has useful tools. But (almost) all lists were made by the community of Bluesky users. Curation was made by users.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

The block lists for various types of assholes are also a marvellous invention. It's so nice to block all of MAGA at a click

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 hours ago

People who genuinely think like this (as in, that users going to Bluesky is somehow bad, surprising or something only stupid people do) are the very reason systems such as Mastodon cannot work. And sadly they naturally pervade such systems, at a development, administration and user level.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It’s almost like the average person doesn’t care about the fediverse and decentralisation and only wants muskless twitter. Nooo clearly the normies are idiot sheep

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I mean, the reason Musk is an issue is because Twitter is a privately owned, for-profit company. The issue is top-down leadership. Bluesky is absolutely doomed to the same fate.

Bluesky is a for-profit corporation backed by Venture Capital and run by Crypto assholes.

Jack Dorsey launched the initiative in 2019 as a proof-of-concept for a federated Twitter, which never happened. After dumping Twitter, he re-launched it as a standalone social media service and flagship ATProto instance, before jumping ship and letting it be run by committee. He now endorses Nostr, because BlueSky wasn't friendly enough to Nazis.

The current BlueSky CEO, Lantian Graber, started her career running shitcoin/scamcoin exchange (SkuCoin), manufacturing ASIC mining rigs, and developing for Zcash. She masquerades as a progressive techie, even as all of her past experience leans Libertarian/Anarchocapitalist, and all of her other ventures' websites are plastered with GenAI slop.

Bluesky is growing faster than ever expected, and with virtually zero real federation going on. It's going to fail catastrophically when the new user base realizes they signed up for the same shit they were trying to get away from.

It isn't that hard to realize that a FOSS product developed by a nonprofit (eg. Mastodon) is the correct answer, not more centralized, corporate, for-profit social media...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Bluesky is Decentralized, people are moving to Bluesky because it is easier to use and has better UI and UX. The reason people are moving to Bluesky and not mastodon has nothing to do with Decentralized, it is because it is simply user friendly. I used both and I think currently that Bluesky is definitely better. One of the biggest issues is the app, many users use their phones and The mastadon apps are awful in comparison to bluesky.

https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/how-to-host-a-bluesky-pds

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That’s exactly the thing, mastodon has all of these nerd things attached to it that most people won’t care about, whilst BlueSky doesn’t

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, Bluesky has both federation and ease of use, which is why many prefer it over Mastodon. Instead of making someone search for a server to join, Bluesky gives you a default server which makes it easier for less tech savvy users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If the userbase of mastodon is even remotely similar to that of lemmy, I sure as fuck am glad I joined Bluesky instead

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

You're always welcome to go back to Reddit if you don't like it here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

I did. The userbase in most of the subs there is warmer, not hostile, and much, MUCH less gatekeepy.

If lemmy ever wants to grow and actually succeed, I don't see it happening with people acting like they are acting now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I've had less toxic experiences on reddit. Here I've had people use my post history to insult me and I even had some jackass respond to me 3 months later after some change Firefox did to "prove" he was right. Even though he was still wrong. Not to mention the tankies and other troll instances. I deleted my account on reddit years ago due to the toxicity there and I still find it less toxic now than Lemmy whenever I lurk there. Lemmy is dying because of the toxicity here. My subscribed feed used to have at least an hour or two of content to look at but it's slowly been less and less, and mostly just automated bot posts now. I spend less than 10 minutes a day here now because there's just nothing here. And I know someone is going to be a dick when replying to this and I'll just have to block 2 or 3 people again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

lol you called dude a "Fucking retard" for posting a link on a 3 month old comment thread that you could have just ignored.

I generally look at someone's comment history before replying to them to see if it's even worth a reply. The internet has been and always will be (without heavy authoritarian moderation) full of trolls, Bad Faith Actors, and idiots. Block everyone, cry victim, whatever makes you feel better. Maybe if you keep running into assholes and trolls you should reflect on your comment history and how you interact with people online. The kind of comments you feel the need to comment back to (because you don't need to comment on anything, like ever) you don't need to.

It's wild that you don't have the self-reflection to realize that your comments calling people "retards" and "morons" perpetuate the same toxicity that you're complaining about.

Welcome to the Internet though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I had originally not expected it to last a year of Peon Muck's ownership, but hopefully it'll finish dying (or fall into complete irrelevance) by the end of 2025.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

All it took was the destruction of the American Republic to make lazy people spend five minutes looking for alternatives

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

They didn't look for themselves most likely, it's reached cultural osmosis levels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

What happened to threads? I thought that was going to kill Twitter

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

It's predictably massive

https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/03/threads-now-has-275m-monthly-active-users/

Between threads and blue sky, the non-cultists are leaving in droves.

I wonder how much the two cult sites fight over the same users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I assumed people don't trust Meta compared to Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It basically exists for brands to advertise and avoids things like actual news. User counts are way overinflated. Heard multiple people say their algorithm is garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Bluesky has its own federation protocol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I like Masodon but the user experience on Bluesky is easier and great block tools too. I don't mind Mastodon not being mainstream, it is kinda good to have niche parts of the net still.

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