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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 minutes ago

This is why you're seeing news articles from Sam Altman saying that AGI will blow past us without any societal impact. He's trying to lessen the blow of the bubble bursting for AI/ML.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 minutes ago

It's been 5 minutes since the new thing did a new thing. Is it the end?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 34 minutes ago

As I use copilot to write software, I have a hard time seeing how it'll get better than it already is. The fundamental problem of all machine learning is that the training data has to be good enough to solve the problem. So the problems I run into make sense, like:

  1. Copilot can't read my mind and figure out what I'm trying to do.
  2. I'm working on an uncommon problem where the typical solutions don't work
  3. Copilot is unable to tell when it doesn't "know" the answer, because of course it's just simulating communication and doesn't really know anything.

2 and 3 could be alleviated, but probably not solved completely with more and better data or engineering changes - but obviously AI developers started by training the models on the most useful data and strategies that they think work best. 1 seems fundamentally unsolvable.

I think there could be some more advances in finding more and better use cases, but I'm a pessimist when it comes to any serious advances in the underlying technology.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Huh?

The smartphone improvements hit a rubber wall a few years ago (disregarding folding screens, that compose a small market share, improvement rate slowed down drastically), and the industry is doing fine. It's not growing like it use to, but that just means people are keeping their smartphones for longer periods of time, not that people stopped using them.

Even if AI were to completely freeze right now, people will continue using it.

Why are people reacting like AI is going to get dropped?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Because in some eyes, infinite rapid growth is the only measure of success.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Because novelty is all it has. As soon as it stops improving in a way that makes people say "oh that's neat", it has to stand on the practical merits of its capabilities, which is, well, not much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

I’m so baffled by this take. “Create a terraform module that implements two S3 buckets with cross-region bidirectional replication. Include standard module files like linting rules and enable precommit.” Could I write that? Yes. But does this provide an outstanding stub to start from? Also yes.

And beyond programming, it is otherwise having positive impact on science and medicine too. I mean, anybody who doesn’t see any merit has their head in the sand. That of course must be balanced with not falling for the hype, but the merits are very real.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

People pay real money for smartphones.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

People pay real Money for AIaaS as well..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

I am so tired of the ai hype and hate. Please give me my gen art interest back please just make it obscure again to program art I beg of you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Theres no bracing for this, OpenAI CEO said the same thing like a year ago and people are still shovelling money at this dumpster fire today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Sigh I hope LLMs get dropped from the AI bandwagon because I do think they have some really cool use cases and love just running my little local models. Cut government spending like a madman, write the next great American novel, or eliminate actual jobs are not those use cases.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Until Open AI announces a new 5t model or something and then the hype refreshes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

It's had all the signs of a bubble for the last few years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

so long, see you all in the next hype. Any guesses?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

Good. I look forward to all these idiots finally accepting that they drastically misunderstood what LLMs actually are and are not. I know their idiotic brains are only able to understand simple concepts like "line must go up" and follow them like religious tenants though so I'm sure they'll waste everyone's time and increase enshitification with some other new bullshit once they quietly remove their broken (and unprofitable) AI from stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Nice, looking forward to it! So much money and time wasted on pipe dreams and hype. We need to get back to some actually useful innovation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Crash? Doesn't it have to be moving at all to crash?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Nvidia shares ..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

AI was 99% a fad. Besides OpenAI and Nvidia, none of the other corporations bullshitting about AI have made anything remotely useful using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

Absolutely not true. Disclaimer, I do work for NVIDIA as a forward deployed AI Engineer/Solutions Architect—meaning I don’t build AI software internally for NVIDIA but I embed with their customers’ engineering teams to help them build their AI software and deploy and run their models on NVIDIA hardware and software.

To state this as simply as possible: I wouldn’t have a job if our customers weren’t seeing tremendous benefit from AI technology. The companies I work with typically are very sensitive to CapX and OpX costs of AI—they self-serve in private clouds. If it doesn’t help them make money (revenue growth) or save money (efficiency), then it’s gone—and so am I. I’ve seen it happen; entire engineering teams laid off because a technology just couldn’t be implemented in a cost-effective way.

LLMs are a small subset of AI and Accelerated-Compute workflows in general.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nvidia made money, but I've not seen OpenAI do anything useful, and they are not even profitable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

ChatGPT is basically the best LLM of its kind. As for Nvidia I'm not talking about hardware I'm talking about all of the models it's trained to do everything from DLSS and ACE to creating virtual characters that can converse and respond naturally to a human being.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I would say LLMs specifically are in that ball park. Things like machine vision have been boringly productive and relatively un hyped.

There's certainly some utility to LLMs, but it's hard to see through all the crazy over estimations and being shoved everywhere by grifters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Great!! ....I don't what chatGPT to go anywhere, I use it every day and Google has become assss.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 hours ago

Just put another number behind it. Luddites won't know the difference.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago

yep Knew ai should die some day.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago

Of course it'll crash. Saying it's imminent though suggests someone needs to exercise their shorts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm shocked I tell you

[–] [email protected] 41 points 15 hours ago
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