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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of these cases may be down to user error, since most Teslas come with manual release levers.

"Teslas have a massive design flaw that doesn't make opening the fucking doors obvious like it has been for 100 years"

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Your car is on fire. The battery is burning so you have no fonctioning doors.

In the panic of your flesh getting pretty hot, you gotta remember "use the manual release lever".

Yeah, no fucking shit that it happens.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In the panic of your flesh getting pretty hot, you gotta remember “use the manual release lever”.

If you're in the front seat.

If you're in the back seat you:

  1. Hope your model Y is equipped with a manual lever.
  2. Assuming you are still alive (see (1)) - Remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket.
  3. Press the red tab to remove the access door.
  4. Pull the mechanical release cable forward.

I hope your kids and passengers paid attention to the training video you had them watch.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yikes! That's a service latch, not an emergency release.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah - and as somebody reminded me in another thread it's because you can damage the window by using it.

It's such a well-designed car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if the car is burning in a fire I think window damage isn't my biggest concern lol

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It actually depends on the model, it may be under the seat, behind the speaker, in the door pocket. It's insane.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

This is the whole reason we have strict building codes for door hardware. Locks have to be able to open in a single action, and room with a larger occupancy have to have panic devices that can open the door just from falling on them. The panic devices were invented after a major theater fire killed a bunch of people thanks to their stupidly-designed fancy locks that nobody could figure out how to open during the panic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not to mention you might be a passenger and have no idea about any of this in the first place

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Anyone who owns a car should install a life hammer. Doesn't matter if it's a Tesla or an old clunker.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That was helpful. Thanks for sharing that story.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is something that can be addressed with owners, but what about passengers? Should they be carrying one around?

How 'bout Tesla just makes fucking mechanical door handles again?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

And you'd need a jackhammer for a cybertruck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Teslas were never meant to be functioning vehicles. The whole point is the cool factor, them being "drivable" is an afterthought.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every Tesla has an emergency mechanical door handle. On some models, the rear passenger doors do not.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seat headrests can be pulled out and the metal guides used in a pinch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Not on a Tesla, fixed headrests on 3 and Y.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

On a Tesla, it seems like explosive bolts would be the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Alarming, and I’ve just watched a video about how to get out of mine in an emergency.

However, presumably this predicament could apply to many/most modern cars which rely on electrics/software more than ever, and isn’t particular to Teslas?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (9 children)

You should not have to watch a video or read a manual to open a freaking car door. The fuck are people supposed to do who don't even own the car?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

You should not have to watch a video or read a manual to open a freaking car door.

👆 That right there.

The fuck are people supposed to do who don’t even own the car?

👆👆 And that even more so.

We have literally centuries of knowledge of human-machine interaction. We know what works and what doesn't. We know the importance of getting this right from watching what would be a literal lake of blood if put into one location before us. And one of those things that works is making sure the emergency tools are very obvious and in our faces. The rear door instructions for the Model Y alone are a horror show for anybody who has ever been in a crisis before. And then on top of that not all Model Ys have such a latch anyway.

Everything about Tesla's doors are horrific.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The fuck are people supposed to do who don't even own the car?

Their failure on this point is particularly concerning if they want to run a robotaxi service.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Could apply, but doesn’t apply, as the door handle is a functioning door handle in most cars.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I consider the electronic door handles to be a violation of functional safety ISO 26262. I would think that in a fire situation the doors electronics are pretty unlikely to work. The manual release is not a good control because a reasonable person isn't necessarily going to know it exists. I work in the automotive industry and most organisations I have worked with are big old manufacturers and they think extremely long and hard about this kind of thing. Sadly I doubt Tesla cares so much about ISO standards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (10 children)

If electronic doors are a must, they should fail open in an emergency...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think you'll find most cars have visible, obvious, manual door latches on the inside. I know the XPengs and BYDs certainly do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Best cars ever!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Boy that's a metaphor, innit.

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