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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

There are downsides with downloading their app just to input bad data, but it's a fun thought.


edit: While we're at it we might as well offer an alternative app to people.

I posted in [email protected] to collect recommendations for better apps

The post: https://lemmy.ca/post/32877620

Leading Recommendation from the comments

The leading recommendation seems to be Drip (bloodyhealth.gitlab.io)

Summarizing what people shared:

  • accessible: it is on F-droid, Google Play, & iOS App Store
  • does not allow any third-party tracking
  • the project got support from "PrototypeFund & Germany's Federal Ministry of Education and Research, the Superrr Lab and Mozilla"
  • Listed features:
    • "Your data, your choice: Everything you enter stays on your device"
    • "Not another cute, pink app: drip is designed with gender inclusivity in mind."
    • "Your body is not a black box: drip is transparent in its calculations and encourages you to think for yourself."
    • "Track what you like: Just your period, or detect your fertility using the symptothermal method."

Their Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@dripapp

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the scummiest app I've ever downloaded.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can you elaborate? my wife uses it, I told her about Drip and other opensource alternatives but I don't know where "scummiest" comes from

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Well, it depends on what you want out of it and, to be fair, i am not a period-haver.

That being said there is so, so much tracking it is doing to give you data and recommendations. While getting started it felt positively gross the amount fo personal questions it was asking. Why is all that necessary? Again, it depends if you want whatever information it is giving you.

But, even on top of that, wasn't it proven that the app was selling data to interested parties to be used for nedarious reasons? That's why we're even doing this whole men-should-sign-up-to-feed-it-bullshit-and-ruin-the-data in the first place.
Even though, as another user said: it likely wouldnt actually do anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While getting started it felt positively gross the amount fo personal questions it was asking. Why is all that necessary?

Hi. Occasional period haver here. With all due respect, it’s possible that since the context is the menstrual cycle, questions that seem irrelevant to you (as a not-period-haver) might actually be important for the typical end user (period-havers.) Things like age, weight, diet, activity level, and more can all play a role in how someone’s period affects them. But I have no plans to download this, or any other tracker app, so I can’t independently determine the extent to which that’s the case.

Could anyone who signed up provide some specific question examples?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

You really think that i think medical questions and questions about your sexual activity are irrelevant?

No, but i think people shouldn't be giving that data away. I even clarified that i think it's gross but it's up to you to decide if it's worth it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we go by the wikipedia page, no, apparently they never did sell data to third parties, although there were allegations at some point. But perhaps wikipedia isn't the most reliable on this particular subject or is out of date

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Things you would f consider can affect menstrual cycles. Malnutrition. Thyroid issues. The body is one giant interaction effect.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have several old Android phones sitting in a drawer. They've just been given a glorious purpose.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Multiple users ☺️ on each.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The Shelter app (on F-droid) gives you simple access to Android work profiles, allowing you to install multiple copies of apps.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Uh, it was trying to make me pay?

Was totally on board till I hit the pay wall.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Take all that neatly organized data and turn it into Christmas tree lights that have been sitting in a box all summer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is the actual goal here and will this behavior achieve that goal? Are we...

Adding a bunch of bullshit fictional data into a database that contains and will continue to gather legitimate data.

It strikes me that this would make the entire dataset less useful for legitimate medical research while not really doing much against targeted attacks. I could see some women's health researchers using anonymized data from something like this, and noise from people vomiting into it in protest would destroy it for that use. Or, you'd notice a bunch of accounts all join at about the same time making nonsensical data and just ignore the data from the accounts that joined around that time. Meanwhile I doubt this will stop the Gestation Gestapo from correlating genuine data with the actual identity of its owner.

Are you going to try to input obviously fake data? Make an attempt at realistic data? Try to trigger a Gestation Gestapo death squad, trying to make the service useless via false positives?

Or run up the service's data bills and maybe take up some of their cloud storage with fake data?

Start adding bullshit fictional data coinciding with women genuinely leaving the service

What would this accomplish that just having women stop using the thing do?

I've been trying to make that point for over a decade now. I think I get to unironically drop this xkcd. The alt text mentions diaspora, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I like how "drip." is designed to be gender neutral!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Minstrel cycle

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