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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (1 children)

good, good, now do the rest of Windows

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Dunno, I'd say they're working pretty hard on this already:

Windows 10 is about to expire

Windows 11 has extra ads and telemetry.

Windows 11 has invasive AI recall

Windows 11 won't run on hardware < 8th* gen Intel or without TPM chips

All the new apps are getting AI components that can snitch on what you're doing. You can't even post something into notepad without it being aware of what's in your content and calling home.

edit per: @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Surveillance Economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’ll do older with a TPM port and module fwiw. Ran it like this on 7th gen Intel X99

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It'll run on 3rg gen if you patch out the install limiter, who knows how long they'll let that work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought had to be 8th gen or newer for Intel?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

yes indeed, was preparing to write something more complicated, then decided to use a less than and didn't pay any attention that I needed to change the number :)

will edit

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

While I did not use it super often, the Windows Mail app is actually one of the few I enjoyed using.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It struck a balance between good design, features and lack of bloat

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

that'd why they had to remove it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

That was my thought as well.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Use Thunderbird or the Mailspring app. Or, for WinUI glory, try the WinoMail app.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Outlook enshittification is why I switched to Thunderbird over a year ago. It's just gotten consistently better. Highly recommended.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Been using Thunderbird for almost 20 years. It was good enough that long ago and it's pretty awesome these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Evolution is really not bad either

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Time to back to the Outlook Express.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW

Grandma's been waiting for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Nope, my manager telling me I'm the first to know, and can't share it in the groups

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Kinda, there is a clone: OE Classic [not an ad]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Windows Live Mail still living on with occasional repairs needed.

Outlook Express has died though.

So has incredimail I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Man I miss Eudora back in the day. I used the mail client in SeaMonkey before I just started using my phone to check mail.

The 90s and 2000s were a simpler time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Sometimes I set the Eudora xylophone sound as a mail notification on my phone. Nobody has noticed though.