Please do.
Especially American liberals. Please move to, eg, Alberta and Ontario specifically and knock the UCP and OCP off their perches.
this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
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Just like last time. Do we have stats on the number of people that moved?
Edit: we do!
In the first three years of Trump’s time as president [since there were increased border restrictions in the last due to COVID], Canada welcomed an average of about 859 new permanent residents from the U.S. every month, still almost 19.2 per cent fewer than during Biden’s time in the Oval Office.
I'm not sure if the quality of data or methodology.
Any American moving to Canada would need to be trained in an in-demand job. In-demand jobs typically pay well, but jobs in Canada pay less than their equivalent job in America. The reason Canada attracts Indian engineers and not American engineers is because Indian engineers get paid less than Canadian engineers, but American engineers get paid more than Canadian ones. There's no economic incentive for American engineers to immigrate.
On top of the pay cut, Canada is also experiencing a housing, food, and healthcare crisis. Moving to Canada isn't the best option if an American is hoping to escape economic troubles. If their plan is to instead escape political troubles, I unfortunately don't think Canada is much better. Poilievre is a jerk and a bully but looks set to win as big as Trump did. Many provinces are also already firmly run by climate change denying, healthcare privatizing conservatives.
Also they'd have to learn celsius.
To you last point, only for outdoor weather.
They can comfortably live in Fahrenheit for house temp, water temp, body temp and cooking temps.
I wonder if that's a regional or an age thing. I grew up in the eastern half of the country, and clock in as "younger than Boomer."
I've only heard folks under sixty refer to oven temperatures in fahrenheit, everything else is Celsius.
I’ve only heard folks under sixty refer to oven temperatures in fahrenheit, everything else is Celsius.
Thats because Grandmas cookbook is in Fahrenheit, well mine is anyway
I'm from BC and my experience is the same. I will say however I have stayed in hotels and Airbnb's with thermostats/hot tubs set in F. So whether or not that was deliberate, it's a simple setting to change. You could easily get by with F for all your personal temperature needs, just not talking to others about the weather.
Crazy!
Mid 30s millennial here from the prairies.
When we moved out, the thermostat didn't have Fahrenheit it only had Celsius. My parents could never understand what our house temperature was and it took me forever to figure it out because I grew up with Fahrenheit indoors, Celsius outdoors.
Ovens are only set to Fahrenheit, and we would always check the pool temperature in Fahrenheit
Even now, when my kids have a fever I measure it in Fahrenheit
Also they'd have to learn celsius.
No properly educated engineer is unfamiliar with metric measurements.
It would be a difficult move. For anyone doing well in the US, it would be a decrease in pay and an increase in expenses.
Many provinces are also already firmly run by climate change denying, healthcare privatizing conservatives.
I was glad to see Higgs lose. Pity about Moe though.
I came into Canada in 2018 and applied for PR in 2019. I didn't get it until recently, I faced a lot of delays in and with the system.
A lot changed post-COVID that made it easier to get in, such as:
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increasing the number of folks admitted for PR (as per https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/april-2022/immigration-increase-pandemic/ ) meaning that you could get in more easily with a lower score
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post graduate work permits becoming renewable
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a new policy to allow some students to apply straight for PR - those lucky enough to apply fast enough anyways (you might remember that this is the one that became full on the first day it was open)
Not to mention US-focused changes like opening the door for H1b visa holders, https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/permit/h1b.html
There were provincial changes too, like Ontario dropping the three month waiting period so you could get OHIP right away as soon as you met other eligibility requirements.
Had these changes been implemented during orange voldemort's term, instead of Biden's, I recon we'd have seen the same increase. (Why the wait by Canada on doing this? Well it always takes time to get a new policy off the ground, and with COVID becoming a serious threat in March 2020 and the vaccine only making it to Canada in April 2021, if anything these changes seem to have come in absurdly fast.)
I'm sure it's not many because as I understand it the legal limitations make it too difficult. I've read it's actually easier to go to Mexico.
Mexico might be safer politically but its much more likely to be invaded by fascist America.
Could be because the decision to move and be accepted takes time and some of the biden moves were initiated by the trump presidency
I’ve considered it.
I grew up playing hockey, love maple syrup and poutine, and spent most of my life apologizing for other people’s mistakes.
I may have been born in the wrong nation to begin with.
Canada is not completely free from fascism as the conservatives have 65% of the political donations, 42% of the popular vote and a 99% chance of winning a majority thanks to winner-take-all first-past-the-post system.
That’s fair. It’s still a tremendous improvement from the future state of the US.
I think what they're saying, is that there's a sizable chance that Canada isn't far behind the US in sliding towards the same fascist future. It's actually occurring around the world. It turns out that if governments allow unbridled inequality to go unchecked for decades while common folk struggle to keep a roof over their heads and food on their table, it sets an ideal environment for the rise of fascist populism.
Gotcha. It could just end up being a move towards the back of the same line.
…with even less of a personal voice on the global stage.
British Columbia, Manitoba, Newfoundland and Labrador & New Brunswick are the most progressive provinces that are the safest.
Quebec is trending progressive in the provincial polls and the Poilierve conservatives couldn't appeal to them according to the federal polls so they're proving to be smartest in that aspect.
Historically Quebec, British Columbia and Ontario are the most most progressive provinces meanwhile the most conservative are Alberta and Saskatchewan.
I just want to pop in to say that BC just had its provincial election a few weeks ago and narrowly avoided electing a batshit crazy fascist fringe party by a razor-thin margin. BC might be more progressive on paper but we still fall into the exact same traps that get populist fascists like Trump elected.
Doesn't help that our voter turnout is pathetic and, generally, progressive-minded people don't vote.
progressive-minded people don’t vote.
Part of the reason is strategic voting because of first-past-the-post not giving a voice to underrepresented communities in our province. People want to vote for their favourite parties not just the two big ones so they dont bother in the end.
That’s very helpful. Thank you!
My French is terrible, so I’d have to whittle that list down a bit. It’s a great start though.
No. Stay where you are. Don't fuck up our country like you did yours
I’m an active participant in elections and write my electors. I support equality, aggressive action on climate change, and believe a nation should work together to protect the most vulnerable members of society.
Is that so bad?
No, but Canada isn't a safe place right now. It isn't as bad... Yet. Pierre Polievre is almost certainly going to win the next election, and he's pretty fucking far right.
That’s great! However, if you move to Canada, that’s one less voice to resist a US slide into fascism.
Think about what happened to France when Germany took a turn for the worse.
Yeah their immigration website crashed in 2016 when Trump won the first time.
So I will.be sitting here over in the corner watching the repeat of history and peoples short term memory.
See you all in 2028 for Covid 2: electric boogaloo.
im willing to marry anyone from the usa so they get in, for a small fee of course 🤑
I'm willing to marry any trans women for free.(I'm a fellow trans woman.)
Something about Americans flooding the immigration system when there are plenty of people coming from places with greater instability doesn't sit well with me.
At least it's not Trump supporters looking to immigrate. Also, according to Project 2025, some have very good, very personal reasons to want to leave.
greater instability
Just wait.
Blessed be the fruit.