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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When asked about imposing age limits in congress, Mitch McConnell was quoted as saying: “………….” 😶

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senators-age-share-us/

A third of the Senate is over 70, and another third are between 60 and 69....

Roughly 2/3s of the Senate is past the normal retirement age

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Technically retirement age is 65 (might have moved to 67). But don't worry, Republicans have proposed moving the retirement agree to 75. That'd really cut down on the senators past retirement age and they don't even have to retire!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's got raised to 67 for OASDI already

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/social-security/articles/the-social-security-retirement-age-increases

But only if you were born after 1960, most of the boomers still get OASDI earlier.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Having a retirement age of 67 should be seen as a complete failure of our society. Boeing did a study that found if their employees retired at 55, then they collected retirement benefits on average for 25 years - dying at 80 years old.

However, those that retired at 65 only collected retirement benefits for ~~2 years~~ 18 months - dying at 67. Basically meaning that for every year you work past 55, you're missing out on 2 years of retirement (working an extra year and also taking a year off your life).

A retirement age of 67 is basically the same as having no retirement age at all. It's just a "fuck you, work till you die."

Edit: Seems like this might not be true

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Couldn't this just be an indirect way of saying people with more money live longer? Retiring at 55 means you're pretty well off, retiring at 67 likely means you couldn't afford to retire early. Less money means lower ability to afford healthy food and medical care.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, if they can somehow move retirement to 75, they’ll absolutely use that as a justification to kill social security.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't that like, longer than our average lifespan?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure that's like early 80s or maybe late late 70s. So you can have a few years to enjoy your retirement at least. What a deal, right?!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It'll be nice to have time to enjoy my hobbies that I'm too rickety for and to spend time with my family that's dead

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's the point, you work and pay for a dream of not working and before you can collect you die.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Coming soon to ~~theaters~~ the Senate:

Weekend at Mitch's

I hear Dianne Feinstein plays the love interest 🍿

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Back in my day, there were no people over 80. They were all dead!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or were about to be whenever you discovered them

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If we do an age limit it should be scientifically defined, something like the statistical average age at which mental decline due to old age has set in. Wording it like that will allow the exact age to be flexible with the times if say longevity increases or a generation is born into such harsh environmental conditions that it lowers the average cognitive ability at a younger age than expected.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then we would work until we were demented. Great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Mental decline due to old age presently begins to set in noticeably in the mid to late 60s.

Plus, it's better than the present system where authority and paying jobs are held onto for dear life by zombified boomers out of what can only be assumed as sheer spite for the up and coming.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, if she can't remember, someone else will tell her how to vote. It's representational representational democracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Too be fair, she could have been all there mentally and died from something else. My Great-grandma was very sharp, and very aware when she passed at 82.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

She could have been, but she wasnt. Her cognitive decline was well known and documented.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this is a good point. wtf do those staffers think they're doing -- helping her? carrying out the sacred traditions?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Staffers work for the person, not the office.

If your boss retires, you're out of a job. Pretty sure Feinsteins top staffer is Pelosi's niece (maybe daughter?) And I doubt she'd have trouble finding a job, but most have a financial incentive to keep their boss in office for as long as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans have already made it clear that they won't agree to seat Feinstein's replacement on the judiciary committee. She can resign and be replaced by another Democrat in the Senate at large, but we will get absolutely zero new federal judges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So no change in the committee, then? She's missed more votes than she's cast the last couple years..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

She's missed a lot but a huge number of judges have been confirmed, including a lot in the appeals courts. I'd rather have her available 25% of the time rather than a total stop. Of course I'd rather she be able to leave in a dignified retirement but that requires good faith actions by the GOP, so it's just not an option.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What fucking timing, rip in piss

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I swear I had no idea!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You can't vote for the first 18 years, why not do the same based on the average life expectancy? That would even add a incentive for older politicians to improve medical care for all!