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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 days ago

Guys, have some sympathy for Google, they really need the money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I’ve take to using yt-dlp to download things I want to watch to a Plex folder, just so I can watch on Apple TV without having to tolerate a barrage of cunty adverts.

It’s kind of a pain, but it does mean that I’m spending far less time idly scrolling through YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

For fucks sake google, give us an option JUST for YOUTUBE AD FREE..I would pay!

Not for YouTube music though. I don't want that bundled shit

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uh, youtube premium is ad free...

Im one of these legacy users from google music, and youtube hasnt shown me an ad in nearly a decade...

Obviously other than the baked in ad reads by the youtubers themselves

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but premium has the other bundled shit I don't want. Just give me an ad free option

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

big talk from someone with McSwag in their username!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You know they aren’t forcing you to use the bundled stuff, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

But that affects the price being higher. If they just had a plan with ad free it would hopefully be cheaper than current premium (since no music streaming)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

But they shill it as benefit when many people have no benefit from the bundled shit they are being upsold on

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The idea is that the music is on YouTube anyway. Either access the music on YouTube or use the Music app to access. What you would need to ask for is a YouTube subscription without any music access.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Yes exactly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Do you pay for other streaming music services?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

fuck, this will really hurt my revanced experience. a

oh wait no it won't lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Firefox with uBlock Origin add-on and DuckDuckGo fixes most google issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Clipious + plasmatube ftw

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 week ago (4 children)

With the change in political atmosphere I suspect they're going to get a lot more leeway to do things we don't care for. I wonder if they could lobby to make ad blocking illegal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I find it infuriating that the "free market" doesn't let me bid on an empty ad slot on my own videos and instead makes me pay a flat rate monthly fee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

They tried that, it was called Google Contributor. Nobody actually put their money where their mouth was and they shut it down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

That's what people are doing with sponsored segments.

My gut is that if Peertube had an ad marketplace that content providers would flock to it. But ODYSEE already failed at monetization. And then you'd have to have some kind of guardrails in place to keep people from hosting pirated* movies for $$$.

edit: voice dictation sucks :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

No, I mean videos I'm watching. Let me pay the fraction of a cent myself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Hopefully by then we have full mirrors of YT. Maybe PeerTube would be viable replacement

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

full mirrors of YT

Yeah...not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ok: PeerTube is interesting. But: in terms of replacement? No. non-viable.

The problem you have is multifold - and one of them is constant content availability, and total bandwidth. The value of Youtube is on demand streaming - you click a video, it plays, basically anywhere in the world. The other value is... copyright: Because of the way youtube is set up, you don't have the same kind of copyright problems as you would without the back end negotiating and systems youtube as put in place. You can think copyright as it stands is oppresive and sucks -and I agree; but with the law the way it is - youtube is the best work around that is feasibly possible.

Mirroring all of youtube needs piles of terrabytes of new storage DAILY. and it's in the hundreds of thousands as a low end estimate. You need the computational power to do the transcoding. You need the distribution of servers to load balance and avoid over saturating and d-dossing any given server cluster.

The reality is the Torrent protocol has been around forever - and there is a reason it never really took off, despite live watching while streaming was feasible: It has too many pitfalls.

And then, there is the content creator side: If you want to make money - youutube is kind of the place to put your content up with youtube premium sharing, ad revenue sharing and so on once you can monetize your channel. And while there are all kinds of BS in regards to what can and can't be monetized - there really isn't a replacement, not for the average person just getting started - and not if you are trying to build your following.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People also forget that YouTube ran at a loss for well over a decade.

And any new start up would have to compete with YouTube and their massive audience, and all the other sites. There's a reason that Vimeo never made quite the same height, for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Floatplane is feeling that. At small scale, they're really a poor value proposition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The other value is… copyright: Because

Copyright is the one thing I can't think of a way to work around in a decentralized fashion. There is very little to stop people from hosting non-free movies, TV shows, or other people's content. Community policing can only do so much.

The lack of proper copywriter policing prevents you from using their centralized monetization strategy. If you get paid to let them overlay ads, people will just record and repost your videos. If you use sponsorship, Sponsorblock will eat your lunch. You can try to do lockdown and Patreon; eventually, someone will copy and repost your stuff for free. Unauthorized copying ties closely with monetization. Without monetization, the lion's share of content providers aren't going to bother.

Most of the other problems are technical issues that can be solved, but there has to be a willingness to share a little more resources at the client level and enough money in it for people to develop the systems. The TB/day problem would evaporate if people had to pay a small amount for the GB of garbage they're uploading to YouTube to get rich quick. I'm honestly shocked they haven't added tiny fees for storage at their basic cost for the service. If your stuff takes off, they pay you for the ad view, if it doesn't take off, you'll be likely to remove the worthless burden from their system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I don’t think peertube will ever truly be successful, because hosting and distributing video content is just extremely expensive as it is so large.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I think the biggest barrier on peer tube is the lack of easy monetization. Your average content maker is not ready to seek out a sponsorship and maintain that relationship. Vast majority of content we have out there is because people are seeking to make a few bucks.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It seems like it's already beginning. For one, Firefox is getting blocked more and more often as being "out of date" (it's not) while a chromium-based browser is fine. My VPN keeps getting flagged as malicious (PIA). It's getting really irritating.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use PIA a lot, But yeah a lot of VPNs are getting flagged as malicious these days, to be fair there's a lot of malicious people doing things on them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Google purposely gives you an issue when you use their search engine with a VPN. when that happens I say fuck your capcha and use duck duck go

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Long live the Duck

or SearX, which by proxy uses the duck and whoever else :P

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I wonder if someone can "buy" records of Trump's internet habits

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't know how to use the internet, he only knows how to post on twitter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

coffefe hambrudereed bigly beeeblll mein kampf....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm fairly certain he just tell you if you got him doing his rambling thing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Just have someone ask him what kind of 'nasty things he thinks democrats use the internet for.' He'll start rattling off things that are way too specific and definitely projection.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's fine. Youtube is either free without ads, or non-existant. Hey, did you guys know adblock is a necessity in life? It's true.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Hey did you know with certain add-ons, you don't need YouTube premium? Just like back in the day when YouTube was just YouTube..

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Sounds like Play Music All Access subscribers are safe for the time being.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Surprised Pikachu is much surprised.

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