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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago

The "shut up and fall in line while we do nothing for you" bullshit is what got them. Add a full support for a genocide and doing nothing to stop it. A lot of people voted for Trump out of spite to the Dems. They know Trump is worse, but they got burnt by the Dems so many times and they're done with them. I personally voted Harris, but in the back of my mind this is the very last time I'm voting for the " lesser of two evils". I'm just fucking done.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (5 children)

While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.

Goddamn this hits the exact thing that Democrats really need to learn.

There's a ton of emotion in this nation. Given:

  • The opioid crisis where the people responsible are in perpetual litigation.
  • The wars we fought that costed us deaths of young people who had lives ahead of them, and scarred millions more. All so that a few rich asshats could profit.
  • The corruption of large companies as they swindle the working class, only to watch legislators continue to profit off of insider trading.

And that's just to name a few. There's a ton of emotion in this nation. And Trump, for better or worse, taps into that emotion. The cut and dry democrats, they keep telling us, "The system will work, this time" and you have a public that just screams "well how soon is now then?"

Democrats cannot just keep tapping on the system as it currently stands when the system so obviously doesn't deliver. There are hungry democrats looking for change to the system to form a more better system that will serve them, and the party just keeps dressing the bones of the long gone bird from days long pass.

Sanders fucking sinks the nail in a single stroke of the hammer on this. And Republicans are using that emotion, that pent up distrust of the system as it is, to move people in their direction. The entire point of this living government is to have a government, to have a system, that matches the people who are alive and having to deal with it. Sanders sees that and cut and dry Democrats keep going "but Trump will ruin the system that doesn't work for you!!"

Goddamn, one day, they will learn. Democrats will pick up on what Sanders is saying one day. But holy shit, they are going to clearly take an incredibly long and winding road to get there. I don't agree with where Republicans want to take us. I don't agree with how Republicans want to get there. But goddamn, we've got to hand it to them that they're actively pointing out the exact same thing the Sanders is pointing out. "Status Quo ain't going to fucking work anymore." The sooner the traditional Democrats learn that, the faster they can come back to being relevant.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

alienation

Careful now, that sounds like one of them there socialism words.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the time has arrived for party diversification. If the DNC wants my vote back they’ll need to earn it back. I have thrice voted for them to avoid a Trump Presidency, and 2/3 of those attempts were unsuccessful.

No longer will my vote be held hostage by the people that will squander it. From now on I vote for who I want, not against who I don’t, since it apparently doesn’t matter anyway. At least this way I vote on my own terms.

Bernie is too good for us, we need someone like him with a shot at gaining popularity for policy stances not backed by one of the large establishment parties.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It really says something when the media browbeated minorities actively harmed by neoliberal policies into voting Democrat and never third party, and third party didn't even sway anything in any state.

I voted Green in 2016 in California and I regretted it. I voted Democrat in 2020 (knowing it doesn't matter, I live California), despite Sanders getting shafted a second time. I voted Harris in 2024, and I swallowed my morals to do it.

And I got nothing but Trump rolling out his plans his oligarchs planned since 1980.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exactly. What did it accomplish? Jack shit.

The way to affect change in elections apparently is to unite the larger population around a single person/cause/issue. We just need to find ours and convince enough people.

Personally, I just want a country where we actually let people different than us live and prosper. Why the fuck is that such a hard thing to have???

I have family and friends that are POC, gay, trans, and/or physically/mentally disabled. Why should they have to put up with policies and leaders that vilify them for simply being who they are?

Why do we accept normalized medical debt?

Why do we accept a constantly eroding education system?

Why do we not scale minimum wage consistent to inflation?

I know the real answers, but I think more of the population needs to vote based on the results of them asking themselves why this is the norm and find the candidate willing to fix that shit.

I have a feeling it won’t be an establishment Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? ...”

"Pain? What's that? Some kind of... 'poor-person' thing?? Wait, I remember now, it's the french word for bread! Well, let them eat baguettes~"

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