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[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago

As long as the social media's primary goal is causing addiction and clout chasing behavior, the age limit should be 60

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Difficult debate. Not sure the traditional media are so much better. I personally think that educating teens to handle whatever medias would be preferable to a blanked ban. It’s going to be interesting to see how it will evolve.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Traditional media aren't associated with bullying and suicide risk. Social media are.

Teens have always bullied, so it's hardly a surprise or preventable on social media. It implies that the victim cannot escape from it though and at least leave it at school. So moving entry age to a level, bullying isn't as bad is a good idea in my book.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well yes but those aren’t the only dangers are they? And not all social medias are equally problematic ; we’re better here than Facebook or so I like to believe. And life, in general, is filled with bullies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No, bullying isn't the only danger. Addiction is another and that's just as bad here as for any other feed-based system. Legal addictive substances also have an entry age of at least 16, usually higher.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure. Plenty of things are addictive as well. Games nowadays, sugar… they don’t get the hammer ban. Where’s everyone’s accountability when it takes the government to decide things for our kids? I for sure will support mine when they onboard social media - in the same way I’m trying to educate them of TV, Games, food, even music… That’s a parent’s job, not a government’s job in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Good default, I'm of the same opinion, in general. We should only restrict entry age if simple education isn't enough - as can be seen by teen suicide rates rising in parallel with the spread of social media.

Sugar isn't restricted but alcohol and tobacco are. Why is that? Because there's a difference in addictiveness and possible harm done.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

I used to read Australian news every day. Now I just don't bother. This government just wastes their time on complete and utter nonsense like this while we're in the middle of a housing crisis that they're doing their absolute best to exacerbate.

I feel like I became dumber just reading this article.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck to them on ever enforcing that without even more mass surveillance

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

How do we get more mass surveillance? I know! Lets make up a reason why we should implement it. Children!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You’re posting a lot for a one day account.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

The non-stop Lemmy grind is one hell of a drug huh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

I’m just saying

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

I am becoming convinced that trying to establish a generally applicable age limit is the wrong way to go about these types of things, but instead we must focus on identifying the specific developmental markers which represent each phase and focus on those. We should teach parents to "read" their children's progress and determine dynamically, based on both general data and individual empirical observations. Some children may not be ready for Social Media even at 16, while others who have more natural social inclinations may be hampered by a delayed introduction of these realities.

We've been treating the subject of children like they're a bulk product, but they're just as individually specific as any other human being. They just lack a fully defined brain structure and the contextualisation and understanding which come from life experience, but I doubt anyone could argue they don't have a personality or cognitive uniqueness.

Note: I am not talking about the age of consent! That one should always be a thing!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 17 hours ago

I think 13 is fine, even though it's not really enforced anywhere. Wouldn't give phones to toddlers though...

[–] [email protected] -5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

At whatever age they want to.

holy shit why would you deprive kids of (often their only way to have any) social contacts and think you're the good guys

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, same with sugar, cigarettes and alcohol. Give these children what they want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Because nostr and the fediverse care so much about what they think. I'm absolutely certain that every fediverse instance will immediately block any Australians under 16 years old. /s