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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So we’re not downvoting anything even slightly critical of the democrats anymore?

Good. Because they fucked this one up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

There is a tiger on the lose. Let's blame the people who are against caging the tiger in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I can't believe the bullshit with the Cheneys. When a war criminal like Dick Cheney endorses you, you disavow them.

Harris even got endorsed by Richard Spencer, who's a white nationalist, and she didn't say shit! What was she thinking? "I've got the neocon vote, now maybe I'll get the Nazi vote"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

"Stein got a Nazi to endorse her even though she disowned it, she's horrid."

"Harris openly loved Cheney and didn't say anything Spencer, she's the the most progressive person to ever run!"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I switched my registration party from Democrat to Independent today. Tired of this shit. Enough is enough I'm voting my values from now on.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago

Speaking as a hungarian having lived under Orbán's rule for 16 years and counting, don't worry; after this point you will have either no elections or they will be a pointless mockery only.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

The fact that you're registered is wild to me. One of the few things my state has right is having open primaries imo

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Democrats were too busy making sure progressive candidates were banned from participating in democracy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic Convention had room on the stage for anti-choice Republicans, but none for Palestinian-Americans. I heard the speech that representative was going to give. There was nothing controversial in there. It didn't mention an arms embargo. Having them present was too much for the DNC.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a big tent party for "former" Republicans, oligarchs, corporations, but not anyone the Republicans are making hit lists of right now.

Palestinians can't even attend, "she's talking right now." Meanwhile she just has lunch with the people who made the War ~~for Oil~~ on Terror, and acts like this is true progress and you're the bad guy for not warming up to Dick Chaney.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

hey man Cheney and Bush are monsters and we have to stop them by voting blue no matter who

checks calendar sorry I mean Cheney and Bush are moderate Republicans who endorse Kamala let's give them a hand

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

🇺🇸 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🇺🇸

The reality is that neoliberals in power, and even many poor deluded neoliberal voters, would rather have Republicans in charge than people interested in addressing the intentional and by design inequity of our economy, despite all the social issues that very inequity causes and exacerbates they then falsely claim to care about, including abortion, which is often correctly an economic decision.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/15/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-opposes-banning-stock-buys-by-congress-members.html

I voted blue out of harm reduction as I always have, without hope, just to minimize what little cruelty I have the power to potentially minimize, but they did this to themselves, as we never get a vote on our economic system or the cruelty it propagates, because (D) and (R) are on the take, and I've yet to meet an affluent person of either party take issue with the economic system they benefit from despite our legions of homeless and barely subsisting people without the means to bribe officials on their behalf, and their very existence is proof of this economy's failure as a lowly tool to better equitibly distribute goods and services in service to a society that an economy is meant to be.

Our economy, and by that I mean our oligarch class that sits above the society they have no stake in, instead orders our society around through the legislators they own solely to maximize their private profit against all other concerns, and it's beyond perverse. We've just been propagandized our entire lives to consider it to be the natural state of things by self-serving for profit media and captured state government's capitalist indoctrinating curriculum.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

"The son of the worker, on entering life, finds no field which he may till, no machine which he may tend, no mine in which he may dig, without accepting to leave a great part of what he will produce to a master. He must sell his labour for a scant and uncertain wage. His father and his grandfather have toiled to drain this field, to build this mill, to perfect this machine. They gave to the work the full measure of their strength, and what more could they give? But their heir comes into the world poorer than the lowest savage. If he obtains leave to till the fields, it is on condition of surrendering a quarter of the produce to his master, and another quarter to the government and the middlemen. And this tax, levied upon him by the State, the capitalist, the lord of the manor, and the middleman, is always increasing; it rarely leaves him the power to improve his system of culture. If he turns to industry, he is allowed to work--though not always even that --only on condition that he yield a half or two-thirds of the product to him whom the land recognizes as the owner of the machine.

We cry shame on the feudal baron who forbade the peasant to turn a clod of earth unless he surrendered to his lord a fourth of his crop. We call those the barbarous times. But if the forms have changed, the relations have remained the same, and the worker is forced, under the name of free contract, to accept feudal obligations. For, turn where he will, he can find no better conditions. Everything has become private property, and he must accept, or die of hunger."

  • Peter Kropotkin (The conquest of bread)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I went to check Reddit. for a bit It is interesting to see the difference in reaction on Lemmy and Reddit. At least Lemmy is now admitting that running a Republican campaign with Lez Cheney might not have been the best idea.

There is absolutely zero self reflection on Reddit. All blame lies on "racist imigrants".

And Democrats had the perfect economic plan too. Forget Kamala failing to secure the Unions. No teamsters endorsement. Forget the railroad strike shutdown. Forget massive inflation. The genocide is never even mentioned on Reddit. Kamala was 100% perfect in every single way.

No mention of the massive increase of young white voters for Trump.

Democrats will lose again in 2028. They vehemently refuse to learn from any of this. Instead of doing anything progressive they will say everyone is a racist and move right.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Democrats are completely out of touch. them expecting voters putting other issues on top of them making ends meets and food on the table (like mocking Vance's egg prices ), all the while most polls showing the economy is the biggest concern with 38 % of all voters, is just simply delusional

And they have lost both the popular and electoral college vote. meaning the real problem here is them.

And don't get me started on the propaganda of Iowa's early voters polls showing a Kamala landslide just 2 days before election day. If you live in a left wing bubble and believe this shit, than this should be a hard smack back into reality.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So I guess people actually think Trump and Musk are going to help them with their egg prices?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, you might find it stupid or illogical, but they (trump , elmo) are seen as smart and successful, and they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term.

That's democracy, everyone has a say, whether their opinions or feelings are right or wrong. but instead of the democrats putting the work to meet these people they have chosen to belittle them. and that has cost them so far the Presidency and the Senate.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Til a few hundred words by rando dude I've never heard of is an "autopsy".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

But it felt like a Harry Potter book to him 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Oof I was just giving the benefit of the doubt since I didn't feel like counting. What a real absolute take down that 50-word autopsy was.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't it amazing that both the female democratic candidates for president in our history have campaigned with war criminals and then lost. I wonder if there's a lesson there?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Famed pacifist Hillary Clinton

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Poor thing was under sniper fire one time.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

So this proves we need to rebuild or create a true opposition party. Running as a moderate party just continously pushes America politics right. Those that wanted a fully different option just stay home on election day. This isn't a both sides argument, just facts. We can't keep failing in this way when the writing is on the wall. We need to change the leadership in the dems. They all need to go! Yes race and gender played a role but Trump is projected to get 6 million less votes this time around than last time. So that means the base for dems just didn't vote. Yes that's upsetting but trying to shame and meme them into voting will never work. Give people something to vote for, not just against. Republicans get it but using fear and promising a better life for their base. (even at the expense of others they at least give that to their base.)such a sad day in America and the only thing that'll save us is to come together as a community and create a party that represents that community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Last time we tried and succeeded in send some of the most progressive representatives to the House. They did run on a Democratic ticket but were far to the left of anything that Democrats have ever stood for. Democrats co-opted them, used them to increase their progressive credentials and then sidelined them.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Running as a moderate party just continously pushes America politics right.

100% this

In the UK the left-wing party, Labour, very drastically moved themselves to the centre, rebranding as New Labour.

Since then, the Conservatives have increasingly adopted far-right policies and everybody just accepts it as normal.

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